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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:12 PM Original message |
Jared Lee Loughner was not a "teabagger," but that hardly matters |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. nor was he a lunatic liberal as some may claim. |
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trayNTP (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. He as an individual doesn't matter. Incidiary language in stressful times leads to this. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. I think he is just a loonie |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Uh, no, it was political. He didn't shoot a Wal-Mart cashier. nt |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. read Loughners writings... there was no logic in what he did. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. I did. I wasn't able to read what I suspect was already scrubbed from the web. |
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kurosagi (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. Loughner |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Worked for her? Got a link for that? I know he spoke with her at a local meeting. nt |
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kurosagi (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. here's the link |
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kurosagi (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. hmm... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. No, a REAL link. Not a forum post with something from WorldNetDaily. nt |
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kurosagi (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. yep |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. He didn't work for he. He spoke with her once and she sent him a form letter. nt |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. Coincidence this time... STOP THE NEXT TIME!!!!!!!!!!! |
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trayNTP (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I do not endorse coincidence theory. |
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JustFiveMoreMinutes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. me niether.. but if some want to call it that... i just say '.. and next time? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Neither do I.... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
5. If you shoot a member of Congress in public, it is political. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. At this point in time, I would characterize it as a political act but not necessarily a partisan one |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. clearest sentence of the day... nt |
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trayNTP (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. In hindsight, it might not be "partisan" b/c he didn't plan to kill the Republican (the Judge) there |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. That "Republican" judge had just rendered a decision in |
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trayNTP (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Understood, but "partisan" here is being applied to party affiliation, not political positions |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. he targeted a Democrat. What's not clear is whether her party affiliation mattered to him |
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trayNTP (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Good point. Maybe he was issue-oriented. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. +1 |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. +1 |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
68. I disagree |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. We don't have enough information to assume what |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Okay, I'll Bite |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. he's also a "Bush, the War Criminal" type. Cited Geneva Convention |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. You have link and quote? |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. Exactly. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. The only thing we know |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. you MUST read his posts on ATS. |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Do You Have a Link And Quote? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Deleted sub-thread |
affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Not True |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Here's Some Proof Loughner Is Right Wing |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. poorly written article without foundation or the latest news from today. |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. just read the ATS thread and you'll understand, the guy from SPLC too, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Deleted message |
GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. not appreciated. nt |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. What makes the USA different from other western democracies |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. it makes me very nervous when people start talking about |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. Inciting violence against elected officials should be treated as a threat |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. Thank you. I tried to make this point yesterday but was totally ignored and shunned. |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
21. Please read, digest, and think about what LuckyTheDog is saying. |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. Thanks for the support |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Rec'd n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. Deleted message |
jvanm (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
34. Mother Jones article on Loughner motives, Alex Jones rant links |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
36. How can we say either way whether he was a "teabagger" - do we know that yet? nt |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Well, he hasn't even mentioned them once in all of his posts to various internet sites |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
42. I haven't heard anything today about the other possible suspect... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You haven't heard anything about him today because he stopped being a suspect yesterday. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. okay, thanks for info. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You're Welcome. I know it's hard to keep up with all the conflicting information |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
43. How do you know he "was not a teabagger"? |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. did you read the whole thread? nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Yes I did. The question was not answered. nt |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #43 |
71. No affiliation with any Tea Party group (nt) |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. "sending out dog whistles to the unknown nuts out there." |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. From the information we have he might have been upset |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Oh, he didn't like her answer. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
63. the act of attempted political assassination is political by its very nature |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:56 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. As I mentioned above |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
66. I think you are completely wrong and it was a political act in response |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
67. Agree. RW is willing to use hate and fear and violent talk to galvanize support and |
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LuckyTheDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-11-11 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
69. As usual, I missed the deleted stuff... |
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