To Sheriff Dupnik: "Keep your damn mouth shut" Bernard Goldberg, right now, on Fox

[anneboleyn]

It's the repeat of O'Reilly's "show." Goldberg said that the Sheriff should "Keep his damn mouth shut." Or what, I wonder? And then he and O'Reilly proceeded to blame the left for using the "death of a nine-year-old girl" and "hate speech" as a political device. No irony, of course.

Not that we should be remotely surprised by anything said by anyone on Fox, but I am shocked that Goldberg would utter such a disgusting, bullying statement to the Sheriff -- Sheriff Dupnik, who happens to be a friend of Congresswoman Giffords, who is alarmed by the atmosphere of hate and anger in Arizona because he actually lives there and has to deal with it. Goldberg says that the Sheriff shouldn't make any comments about the politics of hate by telling the Sheriff to "Keep his damn mouth shut." That's not threatening or grossly inappropriate at all, is it?

Disgusting.

[Raschel]

1. Keep your damn mouth shut about complaining about hateful rhetoric. Yeah.

[movonne]

15. I thought faux was going to take it down a notch..

[B Calm]

36. I don't know why, but the word FACIST comes to mind. . .

[begin_within]

2. No behavior is beneath them.

[Rex]

3. That is the ONLY real way repukes know how to talk to people.

Any other time they are 'faking it'. Would he say that face to face? Never.

[Angry Dragon]

4. NOWHERE have I heard that the Sheriff named any

names nor said what shows.
All i have ever heard him say is that talk radio and the media have a lot of hate coming out of them
and the right just assumes he is talking about them .......... strange how that works
they know they are full of hate and just assume when people talk of hate they are talking about them

[rbrnmw]

46. the truth hurts them and they are proving to me they know it's wrong the way they talk

nut don't give a rat's ass

[lpbk2713]

5. Riiight.

Like he's gonna take instructions from Faux Snooze.


ROFLMAO

[StinkRat]

6. Is his attorney disgusting as well?

I know that I would have told him to shut up as well.

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Whose attorney?

[Quantess]

7. I heart Sheriff Dupnik!

[rbrnmw]

45. me too ................

[Tigress DEM]

57. me three!

[Dawson Leery]

8. The same response to people who criticized Bush.

Telling. The right wing/tea parties/white power militias do not believe in democracy in any form.
They want power for themselves.

[hlthe2b]

9. I have seen at least one DUer echoing Golberg on Dupnik...

and I could not be more dismayed or disgusted....

[snagglepuss]

12. Was it the DUer going on about Dupnik not being professional?

[hlthe2b]

14. that, they did...

[snagglepuss]

20. Well I share your dismay and disgust. Sheriff Dupnik's said what had to be said

in a composed and powerful way. Repukes are pissed off because he spoke the truth and connected the dots. Anyone who doesn't appreciate him is a fool.

[hlthe2b]

27. A thread was just posted to show support for him....

I suggest doing so to his Board of Commissioners as well. I am sure the RW will do ALL they can to cause him trouble.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x170797

[snagglepuss]

30. Thanks for the heads up.

[Tsiyu]

10. Goldberg is trying to bully a Sheriff?

Isn't he the voice of reason! (I certainly hope that blood all over Bloody Bill didn't stain Goldberg's suit or anything.)

Seriously, I turned on some hate radio (it's all that's out there tonight) and the new meme is that the Sheriff is an idiot and incompetent.

That's what we're getting as the new SPIN from those Law and Order republicans and teabaggers....calling a sheriff an idiot and telling him to shut up.

THAT will certainly help :crazy:

THAT proves the right had nothing to do with this violence!

"Keep your damn mouth shut" sounds like something a gangbanger or mob boss would say, Goldberg. Your true colors are showing....

[coalition_unwilling]

16. I remember Darth Cheney telling Americans they needed to

"watch what they say" (meaning, in the context when it was said, not to criticize the Bush Junta).

[Tsiyu]

19. I remember that as well

They are no more than thugs!

Fox has all these ads on about how we should all be afraid that our freedom of speech is being taken away ohnoes!

Then they let Goldberg on to tell a law enforcement officer he better "keep his mouth shut?" So much for that freedom of speech Fox is saying we should hold dear!

What blatant hypocrisy!!!

[coalition_unwilling]

25. They practice the art of the double standard: one rule for them, another

for us. They get to say anything they want, including statements that incite people to violence, but we have to keep our mouths shut.

[Tsiyu]

28. Honestly, I hope this is the year

karma catches up with all of them.

I hope any sane American who might have toyed with Fox's and Rush's and Palin's hate rhetoric has finally seen the light and had enough of the violent imagery and talk and veiled threats.

May sanity and reason overcome any who once thought Fox had anything but hate and political upheaval for sale.

[coalition_unwilling]

37. Shit, I've been hoping for a Joseph Welch moment for 30 years (since

the days of Reagan and Lee Atwater). I really think it will take a Republican of national stature now to call out the hate\violence and shame its practitioners into silence. So I don't really have much hope. If a Republican like Hagel were going to speak out, he or she has already done so and been threatened as a result of November 2010 results.

Maybe Colin Powell could say something and have it carry some weight, although Powell has pretty much been excommunicated from the Republican Party for endorsing Obama over McCain.

[Tsiyu]

38. Isn't it sad that there is not ONE prominent republican

willing to stand up and say "enough?"

That speaks louder than anything else can: they have no sanity, decency or concern for this nation.

Look at our new Speaker of the House. That Bloody boehner made veiled threats against one of his fellow house members - a guy with three small children! What kind of creep does that?

They have no sense of human decency. Gone are the days of any rational, caring peace-loving Republicans. The right has been taken over by the hate, and it's all they have to show.

The truth is, they are BULLIES, and I agree with you that there is no hope for these sorts of mean-spirited, hate-filled bullies.

[coalition_unwilling]

52. I actually think some Republicans are afraid to speak up for fear

of having the tea partiers turn on them. I say this only b/c some Republicans, like Chuck Hagel, struck me as fundamentally decent types although wrong-headed on the issues. One of my friends reminded me yesterday that a lot of centrist Republicans took it on the chin from the tea partiers during the run-up to the November 2010 mid-terms.

I posted a thread about this very absence of Republican leadership on the issue a couple days ago:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x158656

[tblue37]

32. That was Ari Fleischer, I believe. nt

[leftynyc]

47. That was Ari Fleisher

He was the White House mouthpiece at the time.

[coalition_unwilling]

53. Yeah, to you and tblue37, my memory is starting to go. It's funny about memory -- I have this

visceral memory of Cheney snarling those words. Maybe false memory syndrome at play. Ari certainly was a piece of work also.

I do remember there being a general climate of 'shut up and salute' in the immediate aftermath of 9-11 and in the run-up to Iraq (prior to February 15, 2003, that is, when our 'focus group' made its voice heard).

[anneboleyn]

22. My thoughts exactly! How appropriate for them to be insulting a sheriff

It is beyond imagining, really. I kmow it gets bad out there, but this is really over the edge. They are trying to destroy his character. And of course, the sheriff was CORRECT.

[Tsiyu]

26. I'm taking Goldberg's tantrum as proof

that they ain't got nothing else.

The fact that they are now demonizing the Sheriff says it all.

To me, all they had to do all day today is express their condolences to the victims and plead with their listeners for peace. That would be the appropriate, measured, adult thing to do. I didn't expect this, mind you. I expected them to be full of hate and venom - as if nothing bad had happened because of the hate and vitriole.

I'm quite amused that they have all, instead, gone on the defensive so vehemently! This proves they are scared silly. Without the hate, they have no schtick and no $$$$ but with the hate, they prove they are violent sociopaths contributing to the downward spiral of political discourse.

OH NOES!!!! What are they going to do? How will they SURVIVE without the hate!


They find a new enemy, of course!!!

"I know, let's pick the Sheriff!!!! We'll hate on him a while til this all blows over!!!!"


They are pathetic!!!! Seriously deranged and pathetic.....

[janet118]

11. Hey!!! Only us right-wing thugs get freedom of speech!! Shut up!!! n/t

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

13. Jebus, Bernie, didn't you get the memo from Ailes?

[RainDog]

18. at least it's clear he realizes he is complicit in the sort of thing Dupnik is talking about

and the sort of thing that Dupnik is talking about is something the majority of decent Americans understand full well.

[AdHocSolver]

21. Studies show that Sheriff Dupnik is spot on in his criticism.

Studies of authoritarian personalities show that they are STRONGLY influenced by authority figures.

Studies by Stanley Milgram and Robert Altemeyer show that people who are considered psychologically "normal" can be persuaded to commit violence on people who are no threat to them just by the urging of those that they consider to be authority figures.

Actually, the excuse that this shooter was "crazy" is less relevant to his actions than the atmosphere of hate and violent rhetoric spewed by "authority" figures. Even a crazy person will not necessarily act out their animosity if their social environment frowns upon such activity.

[anneboleyn]

23. Excellent post --

[snagglepuss]

29. Did you see Lougher's diagram about mind control? His making a note

about mind control leapt out at me. It's as if one part of his mind was aware of his being influenced.

[Lex]

24. The guilty never want to hear the truth.

That's why they desperately want him to "shut up."

[Moses2SandyKoufax]

31. I wonder how many of Bernie's "books"

authorities will find at the Loughner residence?

[Union Scribe]

58. Remember the shooter at the Unitarian church?

They found a Bernie book at his place:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting#Motivations

No wonder he doesn't want people talking about this issue, he's already inspired at least one killer!

Edit: He even cited Goldberg in his writings: "This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book"

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/we-can-see-why-bernie-goldbergs-book

[Raine]

33. Bernie you're the one who needs to "KEEP YOUR DAMN MOUTH SHUT"

because you're an IDIOT!

[eShirl]

34. only conservatives have the right to free speech

[B Calm]

35. Spoken like a true RAPIST!

[Arkana]

39. I hope Sheriff Dupnik keeps talking. He's giving the Fox crew fits.

[Iris]

40. From what I've seen of the Sheriff, ain't nobody going to tell him to shut his damn mouth

He's already stood up to Limbaugh.

I'm thinking of starting a Facebook campaign to get this guy a radio show or a gig on a cable news network. We need more like him.

[Cid_B]

41. Dupnick might be a great liberal or a politician...

... but he is a craptastic Sheriff and law enforcement officer...

[leftynyc]

48. Care to elaborate

on that? I must have missed the stories of Tucson becomming a murder capital or something.

[Cid_B]

54. Look me up...

Several of my posts already dive into why I am unimpressed...

Is that the standard we are going to use now? Until an area becomes a war zone folks can't comment on the fact that a LE Officer puts his politics before an investigation or a prosecution?

[reformist2]

42. They can't control themselves, can they? This story is incredibly damaging to them.

[mzmolly]

43. So "free speech" only applies to Sarah Palin?

Fascinating logic, isn't it?

[Supersedeas]

44. From Ms. Greenspan to Jon Stewart--shutting up the Sheriff seems to be the consensus

Media opinion.

[malaise]

49. This will be viral in a few minutes and Goldberg

will be eating those words. They are in full panic mode.

[gatorboy]

50. How can you watch that?

The broadcast is probably sucking the soul out of you like Skeksis from The Dark Crystal.

[walldude]

51. The 1st amendment is only for righties.

[spooky3]

55. Hey, Bernie, read your Constitution! The First Amendment, in particular.

[Tigress DEM]

56. I read up on the Sheriff - He seems like an actual public servant who cares.

I think with all his years of service he has a right and responsibility to call it as he sees it.

It is HIS right to free speech too. He has an opinion. He didn't say people should rise up and beat down people spewing the rhetoric but that we need to deal with it as part of the equation and find a solution.

How many bar fights started because people got into heated discussions and one thing led to another? If the patrons in the bar are cheering on the violence, the Sheriff has to tell them to pipe down to get the energy to settle down. Seems to me any local Sheriff would see what happened Saturday and all the hate speech that went before as related and part of a larger problem.

How can these people lobotomize themselves the way they do? Selectively paying attention to only those things they think prove their point and ignoring all facts and logic to the contrary.

WHAT the hell is IN the koolaid they are drinking?