"Evangelicals Engaged in Spiritual Warfare" on NPR - some SCARY crap. These people are nuts

[ProfessionalLeftist]

Did anyone catch this show this afternoon on NPR?

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/24/139781021/the-evangelicals-engaged-in-spiritual-warfare?ps=cprs

THIS is what we're up against. The American version of al Queda or the Taliban. In one part of the show, near the end, it is even discussed that they advocate killing gays.

[RegieRocker]

1. Yep, this is what I was hinting at the other day. Many have no idea

what is uprising from the dead.

[Hydra]

32. NO idea whatsoever

I've been trying to raise red flags over this sort of behavior for more than 10 years now...people forget just how scary it is when the Churches are in charge. They think all of this is "cute."

[RegieRocker]

33. Freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.

[villager]

2. and you can't be "bipartisan" with these people

n/t

[fascisthunter]

3. the wealthy are creating al Queda's around the globe

fanatics to do their bidding, all in the name of a god... christian fundamental extremists are no better than any other really. They are so intolerant of certain groups, that they condone murder, and will claim god told them so.

[RagAss]

5. Breaking News....These Motherfuckers Bleed too.

[defendandprotect]

19. +1000% -- "Capitalists promoted religion, the opiate desgned to keep the working class docile" --!

Schrank/"Wasn't that a time!" --


Organized patriarchal religion is the underpinning for patriarchy --



It is one of the major tools in the patriarchal toolbox --

"Introducing the sword with the cross" --

[truedelphi]

21. Desmond Tutu has this great quote -

Somewhat along the lines of what you are saying

“When the missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them, we had the Bible and they had the land.”

[defendandprotect]

45. Ironic -- that's EXACTLY was the Native Americans here have said .....

Organized patriarchal religion also serves as a convenient landmine to be left

behind -- India being one example as it won its independence from Great Britain

it was forced to split in two because of religious violence -- India/Pakistan!

[Quantess]

46. What a powerful quote.

Thank you for repeating it.

[bullwinkle428]

4. 3 main planks of their "platform":

1. Anti-abortion
2. Anti-gay
3. Conversion of Jews to bring about the end times.

Scary stuff indeed. This shit needs to be shouted from the rooftops if that creep Perry is the nominee.

[Ineeda]

6. Look up Dominionism.

They claim to be above any law but their god's. That includes, yes, killing gays and abortionists, political assassinations, keeping women subservient, and ruling the world, not just the country. And more. VERY scary stuff. Edited to add: Both Perry and Bachmann fall into this dogma.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

15. Have been reading up on it - in small doses 'cause it's so much cult-crazy crap

I can only stand it in very small doses. In one week, earthquakes in weird places, hurricanes right after, and now that program - hearing someone talk about it so matter-of-factly, when my jaw is on the floor ... I was hoping a lot of people heard the program whose jaws were also on the floor so they know better than to vote for these cult-freak jihadists.

What a strange week it's been. Jeez. What's next, locusts? ;)

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. doesn't surprise me.

I have a relative who is an Evangelical and it takes a level of patience that I don't have to ignore her subtle but hateful comments.

[zipplewrath]

27. Don't confuse the two

Dominionist are evangelicals, but not all evangelicals are dominionists. The speaker made this point fairly clear. The dominionists are fixated on end of times in a way that the generic evangelicals are not.

[undeterred]

8. Sometimes God gives them gay children...

And they have to evolve.

[Odin2005]

11. No, these lunatics are the kind that beat, brutalize, and ostracize gay children.

They will never evolve, they can only be destroyed.

[Odin2005]

9. Everyone associated with this un-American crap is guilty of Treason.

[greenman3610]

10. spiritual warfare?

is that like "jihad"?

[Odin2005]

12. Talibornagains.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

14. Yes. Exactly! n/t

[StarsInHerHair]

20. it's praying for the death of someone, or praying to make them sick-it's Black Magick

[AndyTiedye]

13. Very Very Kicked and Recommended

[FirstLight]

16. question about their #3 ...

convert Jews to bring about the End Times? WTF?

How does converting the jewish help that, and WHY do they WANT to bring it on?
I thought these folks were all for the state of Israel/Zionists? or am i off base?

[Raksha]

23. Resource page on John Hagee and Christian Zionism:

http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/11/2/141343/402/

Everything you wanted to know and more! These articles should answer your questions, but there's a lot of material here so it will take some patience to digest it all. Also, many people find this subject toxic, and I don't blame them because these people are seriously crazy and evil. So as a previous poster said, it's sometimes necessary to absorb this material in small doses.

[Modern_Matthew]

17. Oh, great... MORE terrorists. nt

[defendandprotect]

18. Just remember, it's elites/capitalists who created organized patriarchal religion...

and the religious fanatics --



PATRIARCHY -- and its underpinning =

ORGANIZED PATRIARCHAL RELIGION -- and its economic invention =

CAPITALISM =

THE UNHOLY TRINITY


Vatican announced a few years ago it is moving to Evangelicalism!!

[Hydra]

34. You can break it down even further

Patriarchy = Subjugation of all but the "Elite"
Capitalism = Subjugation of Resources
Religion = Subjugation of the spirit of Rebellion

Mind, Body, World. The Unholy Trinity.

[sudopod]

22. Lord Xenu help us.

People actually think like this.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. I'm still chewing on this line:

"Lou Engle at length about how one of his sons has started an International House of Prayer in the Castro district of San Francisco and that his son is now expelling demons from homosexuals, and supposedly then this cures them of their homosexuality,"

Yeah. I'm, ah, trying to envision that.

International House of Pancakes, maybe. You'll come for the prayer, and stay for the pancakes. You know how Teh Gay demons love their pancakes.

I think I remember when this Engle chuckle-monkey came to San Francisco. To say he wasn't, er, warmly received would be an understatement.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

25. Yea it's all about demons for these jihadists....

...we're all 'possessed' with demons they say, and they're gonna take "Dominion" over the whole country and fight the 'demons' and 'drive them out'.

Frankly the biggest "demons" who "possess" us are mostly on Wall St. Pfft. The one 'sin' they don't seem worried about at all is GREED.

[LibertyLover]

26. Yes, the Dominionists folks are scary-

A pagan blog I subscribe to has been chronicling their activities for a while now, since they would like nothing better than to see all witches, pagans, Wiccans, heathens, etc. burning in their mythical Lake of Fire, or more prosaically on a pyre here on earth. Their so-called "spiritual warfare" is nothing but negative magic dressed up with a fancy name.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

29. They scare the bejeezus out of me. Pagans don't bother me..

..but these "Dominionist" freaks do!

[Ohio Joe]

28. Yes, batshit insane, every last one of them

That is why it is so important to vote D in '12, keep the crazies out.

[Hydra]

36. Cuz, you know

The Dems don't pray with "The Family."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/melanie-sloan/why-is-the-president-atte_b_447605.html

Oh, crap, yes they do...

[Ohio Joe]

37. Yeah, good comparison, just go vote for a repug

:eyes:

[Hydra]

38. I'd rather vote for a real Dem.

But apparently those don't get nominated anymore. The all sit at the same table, have the same donors, have the same plans, and pray with the same dominionists.

And I thought the republican voters were the only suckers...

[Ohio Joe]

39. Yes, yes, all the same

Go throw your vote to the repugs, that will show everyone and I'm sure you will be much happier with them in charge.

[Hydra]

41. I gave my vote to "your" party in 2008

After they undermined Gore, Dean and Lamont. It seems that everyone who disagrees with the Bushes must go...why is that?

[Ohio Joe]

43. Yes, yes, Obama = bush, I get it

All of that was also Obama's fault. Your vote will be much happier with the repugs, you made that clear.

[Hydra]

44. So I get RW light or RW Full bodied?

Don't worry though- I'll be happy to vote for Obama. If I can't vote for my principles, at least I can vote to prove that voting isn't the answer.

[hifiguy]

30. These people are incredibly dangerous and psychotic to boot.

And it is their express intention to rule the world.

More info at www.yuricareport.com and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1807851

[proud patriot]

31. and perry is their guy

[Xicano]

35. Yes, these people are crazy and very hateful.

[KamaAina]

40. "one of his sons started an International House of Prayer in the Castro district of San Francisco"

All I can think of right now is "Rooty Tooty Fresh 'n' Fruity"! :rofl:

[hootinholler]

47. Which is why IHOP sued them

I'm not sure of the results of the suit.

-Hoot

[War Horse]

42. THIS is what we're up against, indeed

https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perrys-long-history-attending-nonpolitical-religious-right-events

No shortage of examples...