Living in a nightmare world

[RegieRocker]

I took this test many years ago and retested myself. Still the same results but the site now has some more information about the US states and the positions of those states and it's representatives. I am so out of place in this country it isn't the least bit funny. I want Ghandi types for representation. F**ck!

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

[Big Blue Marble]

1. Some of us feel really out of place.

Do not feel alone.

[RegieRocker]

2. Thanks

[Newest Reality]

3. Feeling or being

out of place might be the new normal in these times.

Personally, I have spent some time responding to three threads here in-depth, only to have my response rejected because the thread was locked after I posted. That's frustrating and, I must say, all those threads were controversial here, which relates to how out-of-place some of us can become and why.

The locked thread problem never happened happened to me before, on posting. It is no fun to write a thoughtful response and have it rejected because of a lock. Censorship might be an indicator of topics that are touching intimate areas of what afflicts us all, methinks.

Maybe we need to get the UNDERGROUND back into DU before it becomes so sanitary that only the politically correct can dare to respond and comment here.

[Arctic Dave]

6. Locked and deleted threads seem to be the new norm.

That and harrasment of long time DUers. It has become surreal.

[Newest Reality]

7. Notice that there is no reason

supplied for the locking of posts.

I have been a moderator at a commercial site and we always were required to give a reasonable response for our locking. It makes sense for Admins and Moderators of a forum to satisfy, to the best of their ability, the needs and expectations of the people they are there to serve, rather than the other way around.

Are we in a bad place where here none dare to tread? That would be a real and upsetting, nightmare scenario.

[Arctic Dave]

25. I had some deleted becuase they were definitions with links to Wikipedia

and they accussed me of "spamming". So much for creative ways of starting conversation and free association. It's all about the lockstep now.

I will go passive aggressive and changed my sig line to the words and links I was doing every couple of days.

[Bonobo]

21. Yes, Democratic Mainstream does not interest me.

Me wants the Underground back, The sense of working towards a better nation and not simply holding to the party line no matter how far it drifts... sigh.

[hfojvt]

22. I complained about that very thing the other day to a mod

Of course, the thread I was replying to was obvious rightwing talking point from an obvious troll. However, I still think we ought to be able to refudiate rightwing talking points and not just come back with "enjoy your pizza".

[AsahinaKimi]

4. I think things could be worse...

:hide:
sorry for borrowing someones photo in my previous posting!

[scheming daemons]

5. You won't get a Ghandi-type leader in this country..... just the way it is.

The last one we had was assassinated on April 4, 1968.

[robcon]

8. I certainly hope we won't get Gandhi-like politicians.

They would never get anything done in a democracy like the U.S.

Gandhi-type non-political leaders, like Martin Luther King, Jr., are what we need.

[Big Blue Marble]

10. Are you saying that our current leaders get things done?

Or did you forget that sarcasm thingy?

[robcon]

23. Of course things are done. Not often the right things, bit compromise occurs.

We need practical people in politics, and visionaries as non-political leaders.

[RKP5637]

9. I'll do this tomorrow. I already know my results will put me on the

peripheral, I'm always on the peripheral or under the bus.

[Kaleko]

11. You write good posts

from under that bus. I've seen quite a few of them, and your thoughtful considerateness comes clearly across. :)

[RKP5637]

24. Thanks! It's a little dark under here, but as long as my flashlight holds out ...

:)

[Kaleko]

27. Hey, all the bright, sparkly, free-thinking ones are finding themselves

under that bus. If your batteries get low, someone in the far left bottom corner will recharge them with their sss...sizzling overflow.

Instantaneous, non-local transmission. It's so hot, it's cool again.

:hi:

[RKP5637]

28. Thanks, good idea!!!

:hi:

[Warpy]

12. Yep, still tucked firmly into that southwest corner

So much for increasing age making us more conservative.

[ZombieHorde]

13. This was my result...

I imagine most DUers are in a similar area. The political subjects I differ with many DUers on wasn't asked about.

I thought the astrology question was strange.

[slay]

17. Mine was just 1 row up from yours - same column

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.10

More liberal than Gandhi the both of us. :toast:

[Kaleko]

26. Haha, I'm so there with you,

I might as well have a swig of beer from your mug.

(((glug, glug, glug)))

[Jenny_92808]

18. Your results look like...

my results...

Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.05

[GliderGuider]

14. I feel the same way here in Canada

The NDP (my family heritage) is now basically a centrist party, and I'm still down there in the bottom left, as deep in the corner as I can get. Compared to most political parties up here, I look like an anarchist.
A 60 year old Canadian anarchist? How lame is that? :evilgrin:

[Kaleko]

30. Are you familiar with Spiral Dynamics?

I've studied it to some extent. There's a ton of stuff about it on the net, but here's a handy introductory link:

http://www.spiraldynamics.org/Graves/colors.htm

My guess is that your center of gravity might be in green, and cognitively you are at least in yellow on the Spiral Dynamics color scheme. You're a trailblazer, helping to collectively cut the groove that higher developed countries will jump into with the paradigm shift that is happening, all thanks to our entry into the information age.

Just a few thoughts off the cuff on a Sunday afternoon in Vancouver. :)

[GliderGuider]

31. Thanks! I don't know it, but the first look is fascinating.

I'm a sucker for these sorts of organizational frameworks. It comes from being an INFP ;-)

[Kaleko]

32. Glad to hear you're interested.

The Spiral Dynamics map was used to help Nelson Mandela effectively deal with the unification process in S. Africa. That's just one example of its effectiveness when applied to an actual territory on the ground. It is a very useful map for understanding different stages of development (in individuals as well as entire cultures), and how the next stage cannot be jumped over, no matter how impatient trailblazers and wayshowers on the cutting edge will get.

Btw, I'm an INFJ (like C.G. Jung and Otto Rank :))

[WCGreen]

15. I guess I am a little more liberal than Gandhi

[Lorien]

16. I think there was a poll on DU several years ago and nearly 70% of DUers

ended up in the mid to lower left portion of the Left/Libertarian quadrant. I wonder how that would change today.

[cali]

19. I feel well represented. But this is probably the only state in the country where I would.

[jwhitesj]

20. I fit closer to Nelson Mandella

Econ L/R -8.5
Auth L/R -3.5

doing it from memory

[moondust]

29. Look at what has happened to the Labor Party in Britain.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/ukparties2010 at the bottom.

:shrug:

[Kaleko]

33. Wow... there it is

in graphic detail.

It would be good to to see a current chart showing how far up to the authoritarian right the two parties in the US have moved since World War II.