Toon: The 24 Types of Libertarian

[WillParkinson]

[liberal N proud]

1. LOL

[DaveJ]

23. Republicans get all these weirdos

I'd bet 99% of their votes come from the likes of these lunatics, and tehre are a LOT of lunatics, which is why society is in trouble and Democracy is in danger of failing.

[KeyserSoze87]

2. K&R

[MrNJ]

3. This should be in the dictionary

Under "libertarian"

[obxhead]

4. K&R

[gratuitous]

5. I was wondering where #24 was

Not that numbers 1-23 weren't good representations, but #24 is the one I seem to run into most often.

[WillParkinson]

10. LOL

Apparently I know a few of those, too.

[krispos42]

14. Almost forgot to show up to get drawn...

It's why pot doesn't get legalized.

"Wait, voting was YESTERDAY? Oh, man..."

:hide:

[musette_sf]

6. gaaaaahhhhhhh

Buncha pretentious phony nitwits who think the ONLY reason you don't agree with their worldview is because YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

[IndyPragmatist]

21. Riiiiight, because only Libertarians have those types

Almost every thread on this board has a few posts talking about Republicans not understanding whats good for them and the country.

Now, go to freerepublic and you will see them claiming that Democrats dont understand what's good for them and the country.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. Yes, but we are right.

[kestrel91316]

55. If that toon offends you, you probably won't like it here overmuch.

[IndyPragmatist]

57. Not offended

I just recognize that there are people like that in any group or political party. It's not something that is just libertarians. It's an easy cop out. Instead of trying to understand why someone believes what they do, you just say they aren't smart enough to understand. I see it all the time, not just in politics, in everything.

[Overseas]

7. Well done! K&R!

[Behind the Aegis]

8. SPOT ON!

:rofl:

[mainegreen]

9. brilliant.

[Electric Monk]

11. k&r

[rhett o rick]

12. I went thru the Libritarian stage in high school. Got over it when I ventured

into the real world. Apparently John Stossel never did.

[Capitalocracy]

15. Never got over it...

or never ventured into the real world? ;)

[rhett o rick]

24. So do you follow Ms. Rand? nm

[Capitalocracy]

58. No, no, no, of course not...

I think maybe what I was saying wasn't clear. You said you got over it after getting out into the real world, but Stossel didn't. Did he get out into the real world but still not get over it, or did he never get out into the real world, ie, lives in a bubble?

[rhett o rick]

61. Sorry, I totally misunderstood. I thought you hadnt got over it. Sorry. nm

[Capitalocracy]

62. No, as a matter of fact...

Ron Paul is starting to piss me off more and more

[rhett o rick]

64. I feel better. nm

[Quixote1818]

13. This rocks! nt

[peace frog]

16. I've seen #4 on DU more times than I care to remember

Bless their pointed little heads. :evilgrin:

[a la izquierda]

17. Is it terrible to admit...

that I'm related to several of these caricatures (thankfully not Creepy)??

[disillusioned73]

18. K&R.. good stuff

just shared with couple aquantances that are on this list... they probably won't find it as funny as I did.

[orbitalman]

19. This is excellent ! n/t

[FailureToCommunicate]

20. OMG, I have a few of these as relatives! (I may even see a few in the mirror)

Though I try to exorcise now and again...

[Greybnk48]

22. I've either met or seen on TV every one of these characters

and I'll bet I'm not alone.

[Odin2005]

25. LOLOLOLOL!!!

:rofl:

[Gari]

26. Well, I DO read too much Heinlein

I've read Heinlein since I could read, I had nerdy older siblings and there was always lots of science fiction to go around. I read Heinlein the way some folks read the Bible - once through every year.

This is how naive I am - I always thought of Heinlein as a strong national defense Democrat. If you read "Beyond this Horizon", there is a wonderful exchange between a newly converted Libertarian type (LP) and the Man from the Past (MP). LP discusses how great life must have been in the time of rugged individualists when everyone just depended on themselves. MP scoffs and says if one was going to cut down a tree "Where did he get the axe?", implying an interconnected society that depended on all parts to succeed.

I prefer Thom Hartmann's oft repeated assertion that we are a nation of barn builders, a philosophy to which Heinlein frequently subscribed.

[Abin Sur]

30. Contradiction in terms...you *can't* read enough Heinlein!

I read the complete works of Heinlein every few years myself.

[Gari]

34. Well, I don't think so, of course!

DH (purged voter here on DU) & I get into heated discussions about Asimov vs Heinlein. We've been married almost 34 years and neither of us has budged from our opinion.

I frequently wonder exactly how they make so much stew from so few oysters. I know in later years, Heinlein was beating the "rugged individualist" drum, but not exclusively. Heinlein did suffer a stroke in 1977 and could have been having issues for some years before. He was in poor health a good deal of his life.

I am reminded of his very non-libertarian graciousness towards David Gerald regarding possible copyright infringement. "Tribbles" were very close in Heinlein's "Flat Cats" and it looked as though the episode might not happen. "Papa" Heinlein (as I think of him) said to go ahead with the episode and we were given one of the best classic Star Trek episodes IMHO. Copyright infringement is a big no-no to Libertarians.

(I DID warn everyone I was a big nerd)

[Abin Sur]

37. Did you know about the Virginia Edition?

http://virginiaedition.com/



Only $1500 (choke)! The thing is, I can afford them. It would be a significant part of my discretionary income, but I could make it fit the budget...I just can't justify (to myself) spending that much on books I already have.

Granted, they're the coolest editions of these books EVER. Sigh...

[Gari]

38. Holy cow!

No kids, so some great or great-great nieces and nephews are cashing in? Or is it to charitable places such as the National Rare Blood Club donation? Heinlein was an enthusiastic blood donor:

"Heinlein was known as the "Dean of Science Fiction Writers," but he was much more. He was a philanthropist who helped many charitable causes and individuals. When asked how he could be repaid for his help, he would reply, "You can't pay me back, you have to pay it forward."

One cause that was of great importance to him was blood donation. Having a rare blood type himself (AB+), he was a frequent donor and a supporter of the National Rare Blood Club, which was an integral part of his novel I Will Fear No Evil. In 1976, at the 34th World Science Fiction Convention in Kansas City, he helped organize the first of many science fiction convention blood drives. In 1977, he did the same at the San Diego Comic-Con..."

above copied from http://www.comic-con.org/wc/wc_blood.shtml

Blood donor and charitable giver, not so Libertarian, I think, or at least not recognizable to Libertarians today. Blood donation is altruistic, methinks.

[Abin Sur]

43. The money goes to the Heinlein Prize Trust

http://www.heinleinprize.com/

The Heinlein Prize Trust represents a significant portion of the estate left by Robert and Virginia Heinlein including most of their literary properties. The Trust works to invest and maintain the Heinlein’s assets and apply them to endeavors that encourage the Heinlein’s goals and beliefs, guided by the overriding principle of “Pay it Forward.”

In addition to investments, the Trust has the income from most of the Heinlein copyrights. This comprises book rights (such as the recently discovered Heinlein book, For Us, the Living) for most of the books that are still in print all over the world, audio rights and movie and television options and production. Buying a Heinlein work supports the future, and the goal of a human presence in space, in a direct and meaningful way.

The purpose of the Heinlein Prize is to encourage and reward progress in commercial space activities that advances Robert and his wife Virginia’s dream of humanity’s future in space. Efforts include: The Heinlein Prize for Accomplishments in Commercial Space Activities, The Microgravity Research Competition, The Heinlein Commercial Space Activity Prize, and the “Flight Into the Future” international contests.

[Gari]

53. Good cause!

Now I must look into affording the installment plan! Thanks!

[librechik]

45. Welcome to DU, Gari

I can't bear to read Heinlein any more, but I remember how he taught me and comforted me back in my youth when I would read Podkayne over and over....Revolt in 2100 so prescient...Door into Summer, poignant and mindblowing.

[Abin Sur]

48. Why can't you bear to read Heinlein anymore?

Given how much you enjoyed reading him in the past?

[librechik]

52. meh, dunno--I can't seem to read fiction at all nowadays

and Heinlein just makes me sad for what we have lost-- the pioneer spirit I guess...

[Abin Sur]

63. While I certainly read my share of non-fiction

I still read a lot of fiction as well. Sure, it's escapism...but there's nothing with that, it's one of life's pleasures.

[Gari]

54. Thanks!

The Door into Summer ("Bag? Cat? My friend, I think you've come down with an acute figure of speech." - priceless!) was one of my absolute favorites, but when I say that, then I remember all his other works others and then how can I choose?

[The Magistrate]

66. Then You, Sir, Have Read Way Too Much Heinlein....

[HappyMe]

28. Lol! Hilarious!

There is a Caveat Emptor and an Island at the local watering hole. These 2 don't want a discussion. They just yell.

[AlbertCat]

29. Ok... but

they all look the same to me.

[Gari]

31. LOL!

[Raster]

32. Libertarians = republicans that smoke pot.

[ZombieHorde]

36. That is not true. Republicans and Libertarians are very different.

Libertarians are pro-choice, anti-war, pro-gay, anti-censorship, etc.

[AtheistCrusader]

39. SOME libertarians are pro-choice.

Some are not, ascribing 'personhood' and therefore rights, to a fetus.

I can never get them to narrow down exactly when that happens, given a multi-celled blastocyst isn't a person by any stretch of the imagination. It doesn't even have any differentiated cells that could be considered brain cells at that point.

Never get a straight answer out of them. A lot just aren't familiar with the development of the human fetus.

[Dawgs]

50. Libertarians are those things because they are selfish, not...

because they are interested in life/death, people's pain, or what's right or wrong.

[ZombieHorde]

60. They may be selfish, but they are still very different than Republicans. nt

[bullwinkle428]

33. "The Island" sure nails down lots of elderly baggers that show up

at the Dick Armey rallies! It would have been perfect had the artist added "Sitting on Medicare-funded electric scooter"... :rofl:

[tilsammans]

35. Too funny!

And too true.

[geardaddy]

40. Spot on.

[JohnnyRingo]

41. The one about voting for Republicans for 20 years is so true

I've spoken to many of these "independents" over the years. They despise every Democrat that ever lived, and preetend to examain the candidates and every issue in detail before they go in and vote a straight Republican ticket.

Many now are just "libertarians" who were too lazy to change their status back to Republican after Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" in 2008. These particular indys will chide Dems for being lemmings while they obey ElRushbo's every command.

[Sentath]

42. Hee hee hee

heh heh snicker

[get the red out]

44. "The Island"

My cousin is "the island" big time, he was going off about "taxes" one day on Facebook and someone posted "you have a government job, you would be unemployed without taxes" (which is true and he gave no response).

[PatSeg]

46. That was incredible!

Big K&R

[Romulox]

47. There used to be such a thing as a "civil libertarian". I guess the cartoonist is young

and simply doesn't remember... :shrug:

[Rochester]

49. I hate libertarians

[hifiguy]

51. Add the religulously insane

and that defines the entirety of the Repiglican Party. Spot on!

[separationcs]

56. LOVE IT! haha! n/t

[librechik]

59. too true! thx

[mdmc]

65. ..

[RooseveltTruman]

67. What's wrong with the "Briefly Tempting" panel?

All of these others are spot on, but the "Briefly Tempting" panel represents the only strain of libertarianism I find reasonable or appealing. Ending the ridiculous war on drugs, stopping police abuse, ending unnecessary wars...aren't all of those things what progressives believe?

Or was the "Briefly Tempting" panel's intention to say "Hey, THESE are the reasonable things libertarians say, but don't be tempted, because they believe all this other crazy shit!"?

[Posteritatis]

68. I'd assume it suggests a quick transition to one of the other types after that. (nt)