Should bush, cheney, rumsfeld and others get trials?

[Arctic Dave]

Seems they were very instrumental in murdering tens of thousands of people.

[FSogol]

1. Are we at war with them?

:shrug:

[gkhouston]

2. They are at war with us. n/t

[FSogol]

5. Possibly, but the US isn't currently at war with them, so they should probably get a trial. n/t

[gkhouston]

7. I'm good with that, especially if it's at The Hague. n/t

[Arctic Dave]

11. Should an Iraqi citizens have to go through the process of one if they deem it

too much of an obstacle and take them out by any means necessary?

[Arctic Dave]

3. They are guilty of murdering tens of thousands of people.

Were we at war with some guy in Yemen?

[polly7]

6. Planning the deaths of innocent people anywhere is terrorism, imo.

Iraq - millions of people dead, maimed or made homeless. A nation destroyed. Why are the perpetrators of an illegal war held to a higher standard?

[rustydog]

10. There never was a formal declaration of war

Congress has that authority and power. There was only a statement by Bush we are at war with AlQaeda..Does not quite cut it Constitutionally...But then again, assassinating American citizens SUSPECTED of criminal activity isn't too constitutional either...

[H2O Man]

24. Define "we."

[gateley]

4. Should they? Yes. Will they? No. nt

[Arctic Dave]

8. Should they just be executed then?

[gateley]

9. Fine by me! nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Would we be upset if Al Queda executed them without a trial?

[ixion]

13. Yes. Due process is key to the rule of law

which so many people on this board seem to have forgotten.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. "They do it, so we do it" is a piss poor excuse for criminal behavior.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." Friedrich Nietzche

[ixion]

16. I agree 100%

[StarsInHerHair]

23. thanks for that, I just made it my sig

I've been thinking about Nuremberg, what if FDR & Churchill decided NOT TO LOOK BACK, & let the excuse of 'just following orders' stand? What if the Geneva Conventions were never ratified? It may be an old Twilight Zone episode.

[Arctic Dave]

14. Some people probably would be.

I would prefer to see them in the Hague, found guilty and then hung by the neck until dead.

[MadMaddie]

17. I hate to say it but the difference is the Al Quida American Traitor

I repeat traitor, spit and disowned his country the USA and he actively promoted terrorist attacks against the United States. That is the difference....he was on the most wanted list of terrorist around the world. This guy was the leader of planning on attacking the U.S.

The crimnals you referenced are still on US soil and yes they should be tried and prosecuted for War crimes. Maybe they should be prosecuted in their military courts....I mean after all that's what they did to others.

[ixion]

18. Everyone deserves due process. Period.

[Ian David]

19. If they flee abroad and refuse to surrender, they might get zapped. n/t

[WCGreen]

20. Here Here....

[Angry Dragon]

21. I want to see them arrested, tried, convicted,

sentenced to life in prison at Leavenworth

They lied, they tortured, every death in Iraq and Afghanistan they caused
They are covered in blood and should pay

[loyalsister]

25. Did you know

that everything Hitler did was legal in Germany? If he had lived longer, Germany would have had no grounds to prosecute.
Likewise, Bushco was covered by US law and policy. War crimes are enforced by the international community.

[Angry Dragon]

26. Torture is a crime according to US laws

He lied to the Congress ....... that is against the law
By his actions he got people killed in illegal wars

[loyalsister]

28. Can you cite the law?

Obviously we know that what was put forth was not true, I most definitely felt that at the time as well. But that does not prove that they were altogether fabricated.
It seems to me that loose interpretations to suit an agenda vs. verifiable outright lies would be a legal distinction probably not worth wasting time on. I seem to remember that a sitting president was recently unsuccessfully impeached for lying.

Whether they lied or not, congress passed war resolutions. Thus, the wars were\are legal.

Torture was legally justified by bushco's DOJ. To challenge that policy that was based on an advisory legal interpretation is a non starter.

[Martin Eden]

22. Only if it serves Justice based on our Rule of Law

In other words, YES.

[theaocp]

27. That, or

the Bear-Jew. *clink* ... *clink* ... *clink*

[Truth2Tell]

29. Should Obama? nt

[Ken Burch]

30. You can't really give Cheney the death penalty...considering that he's already a zombie

n/t.