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Sat Oct-01-11 07:04 PM
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| “Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience.......... |
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......... Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders…and millions have been killed because of this obedience…Our problem is that people are obedient allover the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves… (and) the grand thieves are running the country. That’s our problem.”-- Howard Zinn  New York  Los Angeles  Chicago  San Francisco  Boston
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Sat Oct-01-11 08:55 PM
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| 1. Howard Zinn. Long a voice of reason. His words live on. |
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Sat Oct-01-11 11:58 PM
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Dwell on that one. Not as easy to digest as i thought it would be.
It's hard to wake up to see the betrayal. To know I've been duped.
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Sun Oct-02-11 01:42 AM
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| 4. "Genesis is exactly backward. Our troubles started from obedience, not disobedience... |
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...And humanity is not yet created." - from The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson
"Disobedience was man's Original Virtue." - Oscar Wilde
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Sun Oct-02-11 03:27 AM
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and have you noticed how people have been conditioned to call their subservience obedience 'good manners'? or 'decorum'?
How convenient for those who would oppress you for you to view it as only polite to just take it.
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Sun Oct-02-11 03:47 AM
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| 6. Do I see three-room tents there in Boston? |
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Sun Oct-02-11 12:16 PM
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| 8. I wish he could have seen this. |
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Sun Oct-02-11 12:26 PM
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In a way, he's helped it along.
I hear stories that some of them krazy kids today like to read books
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Sun Oct-02-11 12:59 PM
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| 11. You know who else? Michael Moore. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-02-11 01:00 PM by EFerrari
Not only in his support but I swear, when he went to Wall Street with a bullhorn, it was over for Goldman Sachs. He showed you could act up on Wall Street and that it was in fact the right thing to do.
He's doing great on BookTv this morning. He's gotten a lot better at talking to interviewers. :)
/oops
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Sun Oct-02-11 01:07 PM
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| 12. I loved his mom on the Dick Van Dyke Show. But seriously, |
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she was great on her other show, too.
:evilgrin:
A fine assessment, per usual.
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