TheWraith
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Mon Oct-03-11 01:27 AM
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| The Un-Bush: "Obama has done in two years what Bush failed to do in eight" |
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Compare the two presidents. One unleashed a war in Afghanistan he then left to languish, and sparked an unjustified war in Iraq, that became a catastrophe of mass death and chaos. He both maximally antagonized the Arab and Muslim world and didn't even score a major victory against the enemy. In many ways, Bush gave al Qaeda an opening in Iraq where it never had one before, and allowed its key leadership to escape at Tora Bora. The torture program, meanwhile, fouled up our intelligence while destroying our moral standing in the world.
Obama has ended torture and pursued a real war, not an ideological spectacle. He has destroyed almost all of al Qaeda of 9/11 (if Zawahiri is taken out, no one is left), obliterated its ranks in Afghanistan and Pakistan, found and killed bin Laden, in a daring raid pushed relentlessly by the president alone, capturing alongside a trove of intelligence, procured as a consequence of courage and tenacity rather than cowardice and torture.
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Obama, in other words, is winning the war Bush kept losing. And since Cairo, we have witnessed the real flowering of democratic forces in the Middle East - unseen during the Bush-Cheney years. For all the tireless efforts of the Israelis to cripple US foreign policy against Jihadism, Obama has done the job. If he fails to make this case in the next election, he will, in my judgment, be blowing an important opportunity to reinforce a structural advantage against the GOP on national security. http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/09/the-un-bush.html
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Mon Oct-03-11 01:29 AM
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Mon Oct-03-11 01:42 AM
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| 2. obama is implementing the bush agenda better than bush. is that a compliment? nt |
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Mon Oct-03-11 01:44 AM
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| 3. Do we have a timeline for that victory, Andrew? Or do we file this under "interminable progress?" |
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Which I suppose isn't really progress. How many terrorist heads on the wall before we're finished wasting money and blood to gather more?
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Mon Oct-03-11 01:47 AM
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| 4. Bush is a WRECKER......Obama is a BUILDER...such is the diff |
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as a Leader...Bush SUCKED
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Mon Oct-03-11 02:19 AM
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| 5. I gotta admit, when it comes to dismantling Al Qaeda, Obama knows how to get the job done. |
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This actually tells me that if Obama had the authority, he would do pretty well at fixing other things. The problem is the Congress he is stuck with and the fact that he can't get them to do what he wants.
It's really too bad.
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Mon Oct-03-11 03:29 AM
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| 6. The problem is the corporate masters Obama must obey....congress is just a sideshow now. eom |
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Mon Oct-03-11 05:49 AM
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| 7. It isn't so much President Obama is dismantling al Qaeda as Bush is no longer protecting them |
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The down field blocks thrown by Cheney and Rumsfeld have ended. When our forces are actually allowed to go after the terrorists, the job gets done.
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Mon Oct-03-11 06:32 AM
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| 9. It's a very important distinction to make now with only 400 days until election day. |
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Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 06:33 AM by Major Hogwash
Obama needs to hammer home the truth that he is better at national security than Bush ever was.
Someone said the other day that the Obama administration has killed 22 different Al Queda members. Since he has only been in office for 2½ years, that's almost 1 every 6 weeks.
And that is tearing at the guts of the Bush supporters who thought that McCain would follow George into the WH. Cheney has even started whining about it, using that nauseating voice of The Penguin that Jon Stewart uses to imitate Cheney with.
I hope every Bush supporter wakes up one of these days soon and realizes there is a real President in the White House who is serious about national security now.
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Mon Oct-03-11 06:45 AM
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| 10. "Move along. Nothing to see here." - xCommander AWOL Bush (R) |
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Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 06:48 AM by SpiralHawk
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