Glenn Beck says college should only be an option for those who can afford it

[alp227]

Glenn Beck, ardent supporter of the tea party movement, spent the majority of his speech attacking the Occupy Wall Street movement.

“There are many (people) in this country called the fun-employed,” the former Fox News personality told the crowd, implying that the young Americans protesting on Wall Street and state capitals across th country are willfully unemployed.

“The violent left is coming to our streets, all of our streets, to smash … to bankrupt … to destroy,” he said.

Taking a pause from attacking liberalism, “Jon Stewat Marxism” and the media, Beck addressed the attacks his religion – Mormonism – has received during the summit.

full: http://washingtonindependent.com/113274/glenn-beck-says-college-should-only-be-an-option-for-those-who-can-afford-it

BTW, Beck attended Yale University for one semester in 1996 to take a theology class, "with a written recommendation from Senator Joe Lieberman, a Yale alumnus who was a fan of Beck's show at the time." (Wikipedia) What does this stupid ignorant pig really want? An uneducated, similarly ignorant underclass who will eat up all the lies he, Fox News, trash talk radio, the Drudge Report, the 700 Club, and corporate-funded think tanks peddle. Oh, when those rich kids do go to college, they might as well get an education funded by the Koch brothers or watered down by pressure groups like what David Horowitz has been doing.

[gateley]

1. Nobody can affort it any more! My dad put himself through college

(Boston College) AND Harvard Medical School -- worked this way through! No WAY could somebody do that today.

Beck is such a loser and so fucking out of touch with reality.

[XanaDUer]

2. Fuck Glenn Beck

Not literally, of course, since he's a disgusting pig, but fuck him.

[libinnyandia]

13. Glenn Beck is not a pig

Plesse don't insult pigs. Pigs are pretty intelligent creatures whose manure, though pretty stinky, smell pretty good, compared to what Beck excretes. Plus theirs is a good source of fertilizer, while Beck's is poisonous. I would much rather live near a hog farm than next to Beck.

[XanaDUer]

17. True

I apologize for defaming swine by comparing them to GB.

[Honeycombe8]

3. That's not exactly the best way for the U.S. to compete in the global economy....

An uneducated citizenry guarantees that the U.S. will lose ground competing with the other industrialized countries.

Rising waters lift all boats. An educated citizenry can only help the country as a whole. We need people in science and math and literature and everything else, to compete on a global scale with other countries, and to benefit our own country.

The mega wealthy are so isolated that that have begun to believe that THEY are the engine of our economy and the reason for our country's success over the years. It's not the 1%. IT'S THE 99%.

[meow2u3]

9. A rising tide doesn't necessarily lift all boats

Not after the way Big Money drilled holes in ours in the middle of the night.

[Honeycombe8]

28. I think it does. Even for those on assistance, there is more $ for assistance,

when the boats are lifted.

The standard of living is raised for everyone in the country. That's why Republicans like to point out how great our poor are doing compared to some other countries, with color TV, air conditioning, etc. Taht's because the standard of living was raised in the U.S. for everyone.

[dkf]

4. Go to a state college.

It's a much better deal.

[Matariki]

5. Who?

[AsahinaKimi]

6. Without Colleges, Universities people grow up to be like Glenn Beck

An Ignorant fool spouting nonsense.

[Uben]

7. Only intelligent people should be talk show hosts.......

...and that sure as hell leaves Beck out! My six yr old is smarter than he is, and only cries half as much.

[Gregorian]

20. Yes!

[bluestateguy]

8. I would say it should only be an option for those who are academically ready for it

A good many immature dumb rich kids are taking up admission slots at prestigious universities and colleges simply because they pay full tuition and/or legacy admissions.

And then there are the students of all economic backgrounds that are just not that sharp and don't belong in college. We need to have a gentle conversation about that because it is true. As a general rule, I don't think colleges and universities should be teaching remedial classes to kids who should have learned that stuff in high school.

[Nay]

10. Agree completely, Blue. We need to stop acting like college is for

everyone. It's not. At least, it didn't used to be until colleges turned into "moneymaking businesses" catering to "customers." One of the reasons a college degree isn't worth a flip anymore is that it has been severely dumbed down so anyone who has the dough can attend. This has also caused the rise of the college loan racket, and caused tuitions to skyrocket. Once college became a business, the road to ruin began.

A college degree today isn't even the equivalent to a HS degree in the 60's -- when I went back to college for a couple of French classes, I was astounded at: the unruly students (had to shut a few of 'em down myself!), the lack of class discipline, the attention paid to making everything "fun" -- I could go on and on.

[Ikonoklast]

11. Disagree. Anyone that wants to further their education should be encouraged to do so.

As my father told us kids, "I don't care if you dig ditches for a living, at least you'll be an educated ditch digger."

[izquierdista]

12. College should be for 1/4 of the population

The academically capable quarter. The ones that can do the mental work required to be doctors, lawyers, teachers, engineers, scientists (including the social variety as well), philosophers, linguists, etc. That does sound elitist, but no favors are done, either for society or to the individual, by stroking the ego of the merely marginal {insert photo of George W. Bush here}.

That doesn't mean the non-capable 3/4 should be left to the unmerciful "free market". There are many careers which require training and skills to do well, but don't fit the academic model. The private college market has sprung up over the last couple of decades to train these people while at the same time putting them into enough debt that will take decades to pay off.

ALL students should receive an education that prepares them for a career. And a broad enough education that it would prepare them for several possible career options. And it should be free, with no accumulated debt at graduation.

The only education that can justify charging tuition is that done for "self-enrichment". Since that is up to personal discretion, I could see where people would be willing to pay for it and should be asked to.

[distantearlywarning]

25. Fully agree. +1

[MadMaddie]

15. Good Point!

Back in the day there was nothing wrong with students going into programs to train them for farming, mechanics and other tasks that they had a knack for and a passion for.

That changed with the Reagan Revolution, those skills and jobs started being exported and all Americans were expected to get into the technology revolution...and today we are living the results. Certain groups in the country made manufacturing and manual labor jobs appear as low life jobs that no American would want. It's all about their messaging. No one talks about this....

I also believe it is a matter of National Security, if we were to be cut off from the world and have to provide that type of work...we no longer have a manufacturing base and skillset to address it. I throw this in the face of those who claim we don't need a manufacturing base.

[opihimoimoi]

14. Mega Confirmation the OWS protest is the 99%ers voice...not the PUBs

Beckk is an evil asshole....

[Fire Walk With Me]

16. They say the cutest things, don't they?

(pats Glenn on the head)

[Marrah_G]

18. State colleges should be free for all state citizens.

Education should not be only for the wealthy. I also think state and community colleges should offer alot more skilled tradesman type programs.

[Gregorian]

21. Like they used to be.

I took machine tool technology at the local junior college, and by the time I had finished they were busy auctioning off the machines. Now there is hardly a one school where a kid can learn trades.

This is probably the single most important thing we could do for the country. I went from a beer drinking stoner to a mechanical engineer because I had a system that was available to me. Granted I sampled art classes and other things before settling on what I wanted. But that is half the process of learning. As it stands, we have kids who seem to be either drop outs or already prepared to graduate from college before they ever go. There's a huge variety in between. And no one can afford to go if they wanted to now.

[Lorien]

24. Agreed. nt

[harun]

19. China's graduating 5x the Engineer's the U.S. is. If you truly only had college for

those who could afford it you might as well say good bye to modern medicine, space exploration, motor vehicles and electricity.

In case any of those mattered to Mr. Beck.

[1776Forever]

22. Of course he doesn't have a degree - They don't have Degree's for BS but if they did he would have

graduated summa cum laude! What a joke that some people actually listen and believe what he says - So very sad:(

[Lorien]

23. An education has an intrinsic worth that goes way beyond future occupations

if America doesn't want to devolve into complete idiocrasy, then we will make affordable or FREE State colleges open to anyone with semi-decent grades and the desire to attend one. On the purely economic side of it; America won't be able to compete globally if higher education is only available to the wealthiest 1%.

[daleo]

26. Earning a university degree usually leads to higher self-esteem

Elites have never liked the masses to have access to education, for this reason. It can be hard to convince people with a degree that their economic problems are due to their shortcomings rather than an unbalanced economic system.

Sometimes people with lesser educational credentials can be made to feel that they deserve their lot in life since they didn't go to university. The upper class has long used education as a way to legitimize great inequality.

[jmowreader]

27. More class warfare bullshit

Y'know, it's surprising how many people who decry class warfare (or cry about it, in Beck's case) are very active participants in it.

Here's the line of thought:

1. All rich people are Conservatives. All poor people are Liberals.

2. Poor people get loans, grants and scholarships to attend college. Rich people can afford to go on their family's money.

3. When the rich people get to college, they're immediately enrolled in Liberal Indoctrination classes and turned into Liberals.

So...

4. If we eliminate the ability for people who can't afford to go to college on their own dime to go, eventually there won't be any liberals left!

The theory has way too many holes--starting with the fact that "scholarship endowments" are one of the top three rich-people tax dodges (along with churches and hospitals). But that's the way this moran thinks.