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Mon Oct-24-11 12:33 AM
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| Would you vote GOP if promised you $15,000? |
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Weird curious question: Last spring the Saudi royal family paid every citizen $5000 to keep them from revolting like in Egypt. Its fairly obvious that Wall Street and the GOP have been the equivalent of the Saudi royal family with all the money going to the top. If they promised to give every citizen say...$10,000, if they won in 2012, would you vote for them? If not, why or how much would they have to promise? Would they win?
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:40 AM
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Hell no! I would not ever take their dirty money.
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:41 AM
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| 2. No. I'll sell out eventually but that is too low a price. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:46 AM
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-11 01:00 AM by ErikJ
They say the total wealth of all millionaire households in the US is $46 trillion with most concentrated in the top .1%.
I calculated that if that was evenly divided by 200 million US adults that would be $230,000 each. Is my calculation correct?
So if the ill gotten gains of the top 1% were even say roughly 1/10th of that, $4.6 Trillion, that would be $23,000 each.
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:48 AM
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| 4. Me? Personally? $15k/hour, and I'll think about it. One-time payment - HELL, NO |
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For me to vote for the GOP, they'd have to give (total American wealth/total American population) to each person.
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:49 AM
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| 5. Not for any amount of money or advantage. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:50 AM
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| 6. I would still vote NO on the GOP |
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One would hope that it would backfire on them. I'm not sure that it would.
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:51 AM
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| 7. If the GOP or anyone else were willing to spend $4.5 trillion to buy the country ... |
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-11 12:52 AM by Kennah
... it's because they know it's worth a helluva lot more.
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:02 AM
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| 10. Yeah, instead of bribing politicians |
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why not the voters? Is that legal?
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Mon Oct-24-11 12:54 AM
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| 8. Heh! GOP values portrayed in the OP - Title offers 15 grand, body only 10 |
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That's how they roll - bait and switch.
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:03 AM
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| 12. Not sure what to offer |
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:01 AM
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A bas les fasistes!
Read Time for Outrage by Stephane Hessel! He was with Elenore Roosevelt at the UN in 1948 writing the Universal Human Rights!
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:02 AM
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| 11. So, the total offer is $25,000 ??? |
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$15,000 when you vote and $10,000 if they win
I am broke, but I still wouldn't take it.
No, HELL NO !!!
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:06 AM
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| 13. Close-I calculated earlier $23,000 each if $5 trillion divied up. |
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They say the total wealth of all millionaire households in the US is $46 trillion with most concentrated in the top .1%.
I calculated that if that was evenly divided by 200 million US adults that would be $230,000 each. Is my calculation correct?
So if the ill gotten gains of the top 1% were even say roughly 1/10th of that, $4.6 Trillion, that would be $23,000 each.
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:11 AM
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The illegality of buying votes aside, ain't nothing they could say or do to convince me that they'd keep the promise. As an old friend used to say, "Exactly how think do they dumb we are?!"
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:16 AM
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| 15. $5,000 was enough to win Jesse Ventura the governorship |
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Minnesota had a surplus which Jesse promised to return to the people. Thus, supposedly if you voted for him, it would be worth $5,000 to you. Then after he won a three-way race by about 2%, he was quick to back off and claim that the legislature had already spent the surplus. Probably a number of people voted for him to get the $5,000.
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:21 AM
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| 16. I did not know that. Interesting. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:02 AM
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-11 07:02 AM by Odin2005
(I would have, too, would I have been old enough to vote)
My mom still loves him even though he never carried through with it.
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:24 AM
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| 17. I would not vote repuke if you put a gun to my head |
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:25 AM
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| 18. I can be bought, but not for that low of a price. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:28 AM
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| 19. Per year, per election, once? |
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:30 AM
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| 20. I would say I had voted Republican |
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Hand on my heart and everything. Really! As to whether I had voted Republican, it would be impossible to verify as we have the Secret Ballot.
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:46 AM
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| 22. It would be everybody regardless |
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Mon Oct-24-11 01:31 AM
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Bribery doesn't work on me.
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Mon Oct-24-11 02:02 AM
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| 23. No, because once you do it, they own you. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 02:25 AM
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| 24. No. Not for any price, ever. |
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My conscience would not allow me to take ill-gotten gain knowing how many people would be hurt or even killed by their policies.
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Mon Oct-24-11 04:46 AM
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| 25. I would take it and still vote Democrat n/t |
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Mon Oct-24-11 09:13 AM
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| 47. Exactly what I would do...I mean, how would they know? And... |
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I wouldn't feel a moment of guilt, either.
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Tue Oct-25-11 04:20 AM
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| 52. That was my thought too. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 05:33 AM
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| 26. Hell, no, I wouldn't vote for them. If they gave me a billion dollars, I probably would. nt |
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Mon Oct-24-11 05:39 AM
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| 27. ABSOLUTELY NOT. The offer of money alone makes me CRINGE. |
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No selling out, here. I'd rather die than participate in the death spiral of this place. PERIOD.
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Mon Oct-24-11 05:47 AM
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| 28. I'd take their money, and burn it right in front of them, then laugh. |
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I'd cut my right hand off before I ever voted Republican, for any reason, let alone the cheapest one, money.
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Mon Oct-24-11 05:54 AM
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| 29. I find this question extremely insulting, akin to "We've established what you are; now we're just |
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haggling over the price."
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Mon Oct-24-11 05:55 AM
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| 30. No, in fact, I would vote against whatever party supported that |
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If the Democrats tried this policy, I would vote against everyone who supported it. Not only would this be buying votes, but it would be destroying the dollar. No way Jose.
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Mon Oct-24-11 06:11 AM
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| 31. Nothing less than $150k |
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Can you imagine what a shot in the arm for the economy that would be?
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Mon Oct-24-11 06:55 AM
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| 32. No. My vote isn't for sale. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:01 AM
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| 33. I wouldn't if they promised me 72 virgins |
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all while I was still alive. You couldn't get me to vote repuklicon if my life depended on it.
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:02 AM
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| 35. They couldn't meet my price-and it wouldn't be money. |
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:04 AM
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| 36. No. If they were to get my vote, they'd have to become a different party... |
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...Without a change in its fundamentals, even if one set aside principles, they'd still have the tools to make you run through any one-time payment pretty damn quick.
So on principles: no. On purely mercenary interests: still no.
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:08 AM
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| 37. Tempting, we are so down now, but no |
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:10 AM
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Why should I get paid less than them if I'm going to vote for their rich folk policies?
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:13 AM
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| 40. They'd be lying and there would be no doubt about that in my mind |
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After a while turning one's cheek yet once more is just plain self-destruction
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:15 AM
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| 41. I wouldn't do it for a million dollars because principles are what matters |
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Mon Oct-24-11 07:18 AM
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| 42. Not even if you held a gun to my head. |
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Fifteen grand is not nearly enough to even make up for all the misery they have caused me, let alone be sufficient to bribe me into voting for even more misery.
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Mon Oct-24-11 08:22 AM
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| 43. No. I can honestly say that no amount of money could sway me. |
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I tend to stick to my convictions. There are some things I just won't change my mind on, even if it's to my own 'detriment'. I'm stubborn like that (and proud of it :) Just like I always say that you couldn't pay me enough money to be a cop or a high school teacher these days.
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Mon Oct-24-11 09:06 AM
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| 44. I wouldn't vote GOP if they promised me $1,000,000. |
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No amount of anything could get me to vote GOP.
I despise them with every fiber of my being.
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Mon Oct-24-11 04:53 PM
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| 50. The new tax rates would then be 110% for income under $1 million |
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Mon Oct-24-11 09:12 AM
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| 45. Yes, I would take the money |
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and give it to those who need it (homeless and hungry).
CT is going to go Democratic anyway. And my vote is not going to make the difference in the election. But on principle I would feel morally obliged to give the money to a worthy cause.
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Mon Oct-24-11 09:12 AM
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| 46. It depends. Simply because if they finally started thinking ouside the box... |
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I'd be interested to hear what their plan was.
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Mon Oct-24-11 09:38 AM
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15,000 X 300,000,000 people = 4,500,000,000,000
that's 4.5 Trillion Dollars.
wouldn't that money be better invested in the economy? Heck with half of it, you could fix all of the infrastructure problems of the US. It's price tag is 2 trillion. That could put a whole lot of people to work
With the remaining 2.5 trillion you could fund all the schools and all the teachers. More jobs.
the list goes on and on.
know this: if a repuke ever offers you anything, always be suspect. in fact, tell them to shove, whatever they are trying to "give you, up their collective asses.
giving us all 15k in one shot would put the final nail in the coffin of the US.
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Mon Oct-24-11 04:40 PM
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| 49. I have voted for The Democrats all my life for "Economic Reasons". |
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When I was 6 years old, my Dad told me I would be a fool to ever vote for a Republican unless I had $1 Million Dollars In the Bank (and that a MILLION DOLLARS in 1955 Dollars). The "Economic Reasons" easily translate into Social Issues. The BIGGEST "Social Issue" is ultimately Economic Injustice, though you may have to go through a couple of Degrees of Separation to get there.
I support Organized LABOR so that the Working Class can enjoy the protection and comfort afforded by a Bigger Piece of the Pie, and those ultimately include health care, benefits, retirement, and a safer Workplace....ALL about The Money.
Even Environmental Concerns have a direct working relationship with MONEY. A toxic environment costs everybody more in Health and Livability Issues.
So, Hypocrisy Aside, I VOTE for Democrats based on MONEY, and the belief that it should be more evenly distributed to the Working Class & The Poor. Unfortunately, that Brand Allegiance to the Democratic Party based on benefits for the Working Class hasn't been earned by The Party for over 20 years.
Few people know that in 2007, Socialist Governor Sarah Palin Raised taxes on the Oil Companies in Alaska, used the proceeds to fund Alaska's Social Programs, and had enough left over to send a check to every resident of Alaska. I have jokingly said that if she would promise to do the same for America, she could have my vote for President.
So you present an interesting rhetorical question. I will leave it unanswered.
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Mon Oct-24-11 04:55 PM
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| 51. Anyone know if it's even legal? |
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24th Amendment prohibits poll taxes, but Federal Election laws might address it.
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Tue Oct-25-11 04:52 AM
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I'd eat dirt or poop before I voted for a repuke.
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