This is the kind of shit that's going on...

[one_voice]

companies are kicking people that have been loyal for years, to hire less qualified people to do twice the work. If you're lucky enough to stay, be prepared to have your work load at least doubled and no pay increase. Those people coming in, new, are doing the work of two people for less pay than one person should/would, receive.

You don't dare say anything, for fear of being the next one out the door.

I have an idea for an occupy sign, if anyone is going...People are not diapers, you don't get to shit on them and throw them away.

[hue]

1. This is exactly it in a nutshell! n/t K&R

[hamsterjill]

15. +1

Exactly!

[TwilightGardener]

2. But now companies are complaining that they can't find "skilled and qualified" employees--

I'm sure all the people they laid off still remember how to do their jobs...

[Liberal Veteran]

3. This is the fault of the greedy entitlement attitude of the US worker.

Wanting special perks like enough money to eat AND have a place to live.

:sarcasm:

[TwilightGardener]

9. Yes, and

when we all have refrigerators and drip coffeemakers, too--the greed never stops with us little people!

[notadmblnd]

24. that needs to say - employers can't find 'skilled and qualified' workers

for what they're willing to pay. Also, the discrimination against workers over 50 is horrendous. Employers have eliminated an entire work force of skilled and qualified workers based on age alone.

[truedelphi]

29. Any one over the age of fifty who supported the

Rahm/Obama/BigInsurance Health Care "Reform" Act of 2009 needs their head examined.

No employer out there is going to hire people who come with a huge health insurance premium the moment they are hired. A t least, not as long s tey can ire younger people, whose health insurance costs are one third the cost of the older workers' premiums.

[JDPriestly]

67. That was true before Obama's Health Care Insurance Reform.

At least, now (or when the reform goes into effect), health insurance company profits will be capped with regard to how much of the premiums and income the companies earn must be used for health care. That should control the health care costs to some extent.

The law should also prohibit discrimination in insurance rates based on age. That would be a great improvement.

You cannot hire workers over 50 and then not provide group health insurance for them -- not if you want qualified people.

It is when people are in their 50s that the early signs of chronic illness like diabetes or high blood pressure or obesity are most easily diagnosed and controlled.

[truedelphi]

68. It doesn't matter if the costs of the policies are capped

In the future or not - the previous four years have shown exorbitant price increases such that many families are still going to have to decide to have insurance or eat. One person I know of doesn't make all that much money, but his family of three requires a monthly $ 3K insurance premium, just because he falls into the over fifty category.

Obama had the mojo on his arrival at the WH, but he began to throw us all under the bus immediately. Outside of the stem cell decision that he made, all other decisions are extremely motivated by his loyalty to his friends at the Top Corporations. Even if those Corporations poison our Gulf, or radiate all of Japan - he still is loyal. He always has money to offer those corporations, and the recent travesty of his Secretary of State wanting to fast track the approval for the Keystone XL Pipeline lets all of us know he really is not going to change.

[A wise Man]

71. I'd like to know who you complained about

from 2000 to the present. It seems that you and others have a short memory when it comes to how this country got in the shape its in now. You want to blame Obama for any and everything that has happened. Bush literally told you to fuck off with all his rethugs and judges. Now that his policies and the rethugs are sinking this country in QUICKSAND...you want to blame Obama for doing more for you and others than any President in our history. Get your facts straight before jumping off your cliff....it may be a long way down for the ignorant.

[Dutchmaster]

74. Obama has been president for three years. he is campaigning for re-election. He owns this shit now

100% based on the decisions he has chosen to make. Get your sycophantic head out of the sand.

[truedelphi]

83. If Mom's first husband throws her down the stairs,

While speaking inarticulately, and beats her, and along with his friends, robs the kids of the money the grandparents left, while speaking in a drunken slur, but then her second husband continues to throw her down the stairs, continues the robbing of the kid's monies, because his friend are the same people,
but speaks in a soft voice, using multi-syllable words, in an articulate way, can you say the kids are better off?

The nation is being depleted, faster than we can account for, by wars, by egregious tax policies and by outright robbery. Some people want to point to the first husband, but turn a blind eye to the second husband. But I am not one of those people.

After all, George W Bush did not force Rahm and Obama to hold business meetings
with the Top Executives of the Big Insurers and the Big Pharma so that the health care "reform" legislation was a huge give away to the Big Corporations.

George W Bush did not force Obama to tolerate BP's "indiscretion" in the Gulf of Mexico, such that all that was required was BP{ to give a twenty billion dollar "offset" - an amount hat is not going to make up for the fact that BP destroyed the Gulf, turning it into a Dead Sea. With a loss to the American public of some 18% of the seafood on our tables.

George W Bush did not force Obama's EPa to approve the deadly Corexit. This chemical is now inside the marine life and also the bodies of all the humans wherever it has been sprayed. (See my sig lines for a video that offers more information.)

George W Bush did not force Obama to remain totally in the thrall of the big bad dangerous resources that Obama continually speaks of with fondness. As our nation's water is destroyed on account of fracking processes necessary for the Obama/Hillary Clinton "Natural" gas, there is little way these policies can be blamed on George W Bush. Look at how the State Department is behind the Keystone XL Pipeline. this is not George W Bush's State Department, it is Obama's State Department.

Ditto what is happening here in California to the Medical Marijuana clinics. No one I know of is blaming George W Bush for the raids on the clinics conducted by Obama's DOJ and his DEA. These clinics are actually being taxed to such an extent that they are now widely approved of by local officials, as these revenues allow for the continued employment of police and fire service people. But Obama is willing to defy Prop 215, which represents the will of the people. In some counties, over 80% of the people voted for Medical Marijuana, but Obama has set the forces of his tyrannical agencies against Us the People of California.

Oh, and by the way, get back to me when you have read up on who Mr Tim Geithner is. And when you study the matter long enough to understand that Geithner doesn't work for Obama, but the other way around, then we can have a real conversation.

[nineteen50]

26. at the wages they want to pay

[blindpig]

4. that's the way capitalism works.

They steal our labor and call it profits.

[KG]

22. ++++

[Stuckinthebush]

27. Well said...."They STEAL our labor..."

The problem is that they don't understand that it is theft of labor.

[RKP5637]

39. Some people praise capitalism, but it's just as bad as the other 'isms. Give it

a few more years and the iron curtain will be seen as the good old days. Unbridled capitalism is a brutal system and by default a certain percentage will be victimized by the system. It rewards the worst instincts in humans and rewards sociopathic type behavior.

[defendandprotect]

50. Capitalism is based on theft -- we've moving from wage slaves to just plain slaves -- !!!

[redqueen]

5. Corporations are sociopathic... greed is destroying us. (nt)

[truedelphi]

30. Ditto. n/t

[lpbk2713]

6. Union busting layoffs.

They go orgasmic over this.

[seabeyond]

7. corporate greed. that is why it was hard to hear the worship with job.

it was

this

record profit, at the expense of the american worker.

[Sal Minella]

17. What? n/t

[Ikonoklast]

8. Corporations broke the social contract with employees.

It used to be if you were loyal and worked hard, you got to share of in that success.

Now, it all goes to the very top, and workers are a liability to be used and disposed of.

No loyalty to workers eventually means no one will want to work for you.

It is unsustainable on many levels.

[flamingdem]

11. This is what it boils down to, they changed the rules nt

[RKP5637]

40. The 21st century slaves, corporate workers in a runaway capitalistic system. n/t

[defendandprotect]

51. Only NEW DEAL imposed that social contract -- Only collusion of both parties dismantled it -- !!

Question we need to be asking candidates every day is --

"Who are you selling yourself to today?"

[newspeak]

85. so funny, today's meme is they just can't find qualified workers

eighties meme was we don't work as hard as the japanese. And, it's a workers' paradise where you can chose where you want to work, there is no more corporate loyalty. Then we have the words "downsizing", "rightsizing", and "restructuring." Let's hire an outside firm and give them thousands of dollars to advise us where we need to cut, so the CEO can have a diamond parachute instead of gold. And, it is almost always cut employees and make those who are left work longer hours or multiple tasks.

[flamingdem]

10. These 99% signs seem very original, an amazing use of media - is this new?

I don't recall any other use of mini-biographies like this on the internet.

[one_voice]

12. I don't recall anything like this either...

what I like about it is, it puts a face--literally--to the story. I also like, how you can relate in one way or another to just about every one of these stories. Some are almost identical to your own, or there is at least some part of the story that you're living through or have lived through.

In my opinion, this group really does include most all Americans in one way or another. It's a shame that some people don't realize that these people are destroying the middle class.

The Repubs always talk about Obama making this country a third world nation---they've got it backwards..it's them and big business that's doing that. We're becoming/have become a country of rich/poor. Add to that all the deregulation, no oversight..EPA/FDA etc...and what you have is a prime example of a third world country. Slave labor included.

[flamingdem]

14. I read all the stories. Once it's written down it's harder to ignore

and you're right it personalizes it. It's good to know what people are facing.

[DemOhio]

47. Not really new

This sort of stuff has been around. But not as wide spread and never connected with such a high profile offline social movement. I cant remember the exact issues (for some reason, I think women's issues was one of them) but its been used in a limited fashion.

[BlueIris]

13. Nice art. nt

[Initech]

16. This corporate worship of greed is getting more disgusting by the day.

[CrispyQ]

18. And they wonder why we're pissed.

When they take everything, all bets are off.

[moondust]

19. Sadists running the show.

:puke:

[RKP5637]

41. Sadists and Psychopaths IMO, probably one in the same. n/t

[RegieRocker]

20. 1% runing the show. That is it alone.

[undergroundpanther]

59. psychopaths ,sociopaths,

and authoritarian assholes,using petty narcissists,criminals,con men,people who have a totally outer locus of control ,using our virtues to fuck us all over...again and again.these asshats need to locked up possibly executed,and thier wealth pushed downwards liquidated..out of their evil-ass hands.and nobody should ever ever be allowed to gain that much wealth again.No one should become rich enough to buy this government and subvert,government, justice and law,business if it is to exist at all should not be owned they should be co-ops sharing the place far and wide.

[fasttense]

75. Yes, our society, our governments have become psychopaths and sociopaths.

Their total disregard for human life is so typical of such pathologies. The objectifying of people and the worship of luck and wealth (no matter how ill gotten) are just so typical.

I think the lunatics have taken over banking, business and the government. We need to put them back in the mental institutions.

[RegieRocker]

82. Hear hear!

[a2liberal]

21. K&R (n/t)

[madamesilverspurs]

23. My alleged "representative",

Cory Gardner (R, CO4) would tell this person to "get a better boss." Sadly, he is not alone in his paid indifference.

And Gardner and his ilk continue to wonder what OWS is all about.

[saras]

54. Sure thing. We just have to remove all the existing ones from power first.

Does Mr. Gardner suggest we use the Second Amendment in our quest for a better boss?

[UnrepentantLiberal]

25. They're dismantling this country piece by piece.

Take to the streets and FIGHT BACK!!!

[louis-t]

28. This is the very definition of "increased productivity"

a term that makes me sick to my stomach.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

31. Can someone explain why that happens?

I've never been to business school or worked for a corporation. Wouldn't it be in the best interest of the shareholders and the Board to try to keep even the CEO's salary as low as possible so as to maximize profits? Are these large salaries really justified by the arcane expertise that these CEOs possess in downsizing corporations? Is it true that high CEO salaries are necessary in order to keep accomplished managerial talent from being lured away? Are these CEOs doing things that are as extraordinary in their field as a top NBA superstar does compared to the thousands of other basketball wannabes, or a top Hollywood actor compared to the tens of thousands of out of work actors? It seems to me that I read somewhere that many top CEOs make giant bonuses and salaries regardless of performance or the financial health of the company.

[Jim_Shorts]

37. I think I can answer that

It's a good ole boys club. The largest shareholders that sit on the board decide if a CEO raise is justified. The share holder just cares that the CEO keeps the dividends flowing and better yet,increases the stock price so as long as he does that they look the other way. A lot of CEO's also sit on other boards so they are all saying fine, I raise my pay this year and I'll ok your raise next year.

You notice the worker is left out of the equation, in fact share price almost always go up if people are laid off.

[RKP5637]

42. What post #37 said and some CEOs are completely incompetent. They

manipulate themselves into positions of power with their cronies, usually the board of directors. In some corporations it's all about profit and greed and what they can ripoff from the company before leaving or fired. And they usually set themselves up with Golden Parachutes so that when they leave/fired they take a ton of $$$ with them. I spent my life in large corporations, so I know this first hand. That said, not all corporations are bad, some are great, but a lot are rotten too, and the execs are basically legal criminals.

[Dont call me Shirley]

32. The Descendants of the Confederacy are waging Civil War II.

And at this point they are winning, BUT NOT FOR LONG!

[Jim_Shorts]

33. I couldn't agree more

They fired all of the high skilled labor where I used to work to hire people making much,much less. A friend of mine worked there basically his whole life. I have to keep telling him that it wasn't him but he has lost a lot of self esteem.

Wouldn't it be nice to have German style work place, where the employees fire the CEO if he gets out of line?

It's time for a new paradigm.

[Swede Atlanta]

34. Sickening........

The CEO's dick needs to be severed from his body and shoved down his throat. I was going to say until he gags but it is probably so small it is like a piece of spaghetti.

No CEO is worth the value they are paid. They have over-inflated egos thinking they are the champions and responsible for a company's success. They may lay out strategic visions but the people that execute that vision are the workers.

If capitalists continue down this path they will find communism in their midst. This is what happened in Russia. The workers that actually did the work tired of being down and trodden and finally took control and did unspeakable things to the ruling class.

[MissDeeds]

35. We are witnessing the death of the American dream

"I have two advanced degrees. I now work elsewhere for $12/hr. Part-time. No benefits." This country is broken, and NO candidate running for the presidency has a clue how to fix it. This breaks my heart.

[RKP5637]

43. Yeah, that is the sad part, I've heard no real solutions, just band-aids on a severely

broken system.

[BrendaBrick]

36. I wonder what company is was?

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to start naming names ~

[DaveJ]

45. We should start naming names. Definitely. nt

[ChadwickHenryWard]

38. Layoffs are not predicated by economic necessity.

They never have been. Watch Michael Moore's "The Big One." None of the companies he talked to were experiencing financial trouble at the time of the layoffs. Profits and executive compensation continue to rise. They don't lay off worker because they have to; they do it because they can.

Further, they know that if they have to rehire, they can just hire somebody right out of school. It's no secret that graduates are desperate for jobs, and young people will work for less money and (since they don't have families) much longer hours. They do it because they know they can get away with it.

[kimsarah]

66. Cheaper labor

or a reduced labor force means bigger bonuses at the top.
(Don't even think for a moment that the quality of service or product might be diminished! If you think that or even dare say that, you're out the door too!). The American way!

[ChadwickHenryWard]

73. A guy in my marketing class argued this week

that Chinese products are ipso facto not of inferior quality because people wouldn't buy them if they were. I said that people don't buy them because they are the highest quality - they buy them because they are cheapest. The professor asked why, if that's the case, Chinese goods are so often recalled for having lead, arsenic, and other heavy metals. If you can't see that tailored suit that took three weeks to make is of higher quality than a t-shirt made in a slave factory that took 16 seconds, there is no hope for you in this world.

[Plucketeer]

44. I sincerely hope that CEO

chokes to death on the next caviar-slathered cracker he ingests.

[DemOhio]

46. 53%

So the front page of CNN.com (so called left-wing, liberal media) is running a story on the 53% 'movement.' If you dont know, these are supposedly the 53% of Americans who pay taxes (isnt it sad that most of our workers make so little that they cant even be taxed). This group is opposed to the OWS movement aka 99 percenters. I am certain this is an astro-turf plot by the powers-that-be to undermine the OWS movement in the eyes of the middle class. No different than the Republicans who told the middle class they would lose everything under the New Deal, and thus many opposed it.

So while the movement is gaining strength, the corporate owned media is clearly combating it. They also, evidently, own the cops. To add to that, winter is setting in and it will be hard to show mass support when it is freezing in much of the US.

Thus is real grass roots shit. Our backs are against the wall. But when you aint got nothin, you got nothin to lose...

Game on!

Oh and Im new here, Ive posted and few times and received no guff. thanks for that.

Here is the CNN story: http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/26/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_backlash/?npt=NP1&hpt=hp_t1

Oddly enough, right beside it is a story about how the Occupy protests are violent:http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/26/us/occupy-violence/index.html

Liberal media my Scottish catholic ass!

[defendandprotect]

48. Workers have increased production by 35% over last decades!!! Everyone worker is stressed!!

What we need is an across the board slow down --

[dorksied]

49. "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson

The irony of him owning 200 slaves while making this statement does not escape me, the truth is still truth.

[JHB]

52. It's never called "redistributing wealth" when it's redistributed upward n/t

[pansypoo53219]

53. we need to HUNT CEO's down.

after we get a few, maybe they will learn.

[scentopine]

61. I would like to send them to gitmo for infinite det. since they are the real terrorists -nt

[Common Sense Party]

84. And do what with them?

[OwnedByFerrets]

55. It's the America we live in now. Win at all costs, profits at any cost.

[scentopine]

56. Neo-libs are big fans of outsourcing - better to have the jobs over there

and the cash in the pockets of CEOs over here. The neo-dems and their tea party counter-parties believe the Asian job creators deserve the cash as a reward for their skills at finding slave labor markets filled with low-skill and exploited workers.

That's why GE CEO Immelt, king of outsourcing and self-bonuses, is in charge of jobs policy at the white house. Democrats AND republcians hate to give Americans a jobs when they can put big cash into pockets of CEOs by outsourcing to low-skill unregulated labor markets in Asia. In return, CEOs fill the pockets of Congress.

After the CEO takes care of himself, and the politicians take care of themselves, we get whatever's left over.

It's working out well for the 1%. Not so well for the other 300 million people.

[hfojvt]

57. hey now

I wrote a poem about a decade ago called "Toilet paper man"

but I do not know that I would call a $60,000 salary the same as "being crapped on". At the time, I was getting crapped on for about $8 an hour, and no benefits. Even in 1998 that was not a lot of money.

[scentopine]

60. Professional workers are 12 hrs a day, week ends holidays

we have fired huge numbers of people, India is booming with new jobs that should be in USA, but US workers are doing heavy lifting we are mercilessly driven.

CEOs in big mansions can't keep an eye on what workers are doing in India and China. So they are creating virtual surveillance systems.

We have no help with administration, we are being asked to clean our own work areas and bathrooms while being held accountable for schedules and always under threat of being fired.

Assuming he has graduate degree & 20 years and has good skills, $60k is peanuts.

The average worker today is about same wages as 1970 when adjusted for inflation. Average wall street CEO is 10X to 100X in pay when adjusted for inflation.

Of course, health care, housing, education etc are running about 3-5% a year over same interval which adds up to about 10x costs today.

If you have a cronic illness in family, you have no choice but to work as slave.

Wall Street was afraid that single payer would result in 100,000 workers quiting and going free lance. There is no other value in working for a corporation today. Working in America is becoming like sweatshops in Asia.

So they fucked us over. Even under Obama care - there is no cost control unless you are at poverty line.

[MrMickeysMom]

58. I can think of lots of examples like this...

people I know.. people I once worked for and who lorded it over me... Hey! ME! I can't get health care or hours for the slave master "non-profit" I work for, either! I have so much to still offer, but we're all getting beat like rented mules!

[Name removed]

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[HCE SuiGeneris]

63. Well said. Great idea for an Occupy sign.

:thumbsup:

[brewens]

64. Think about retired people that are upset with the protesters.

Not all but some anyway. They think younger people are spoiled whiners that don't want to work. I worked in the beverage industry for 15 years during the 80's and 90's with some real pricks that are retired now. They were semi-retired by the time they were 45 and had worked up to easier jobs. What they did was hang out and bullshit half the day and call anyone with complaints a lazyass.

I know a couple guys still at the same beer warehouse, now owned by a larger company. The jobs a couple of the real assholes had back in the 80's don't exist anymore. Everyone there now works their ass off all the time. You don't have an assistant manager there making big bucks and really only doing a couple hours of work on a good day.

I know a few that were alcoholics that showed up hung over for work on a daily basis. At the mill where they worked now, they wouldn't get or keep any job for long. They managed to make it to a nice retirement under the old system. Now they're the ones dead set against fixing things.

[kimsarah]

65. Free market capitalism

is what El Rush Dumbaugh called it during the five worst minutes of my day today that I listened to his show. He had (undoubtedly a paid) caller praise herself for willing to work hard and sweat to earn a decent living. She then cringed while complaining about the bums on Wall Street (protesters, that is) having the nerve to whine with envy about the rich people who've earned their fortunes through the same hard work while the bums want to take it away, plus be subsidized by the government with her hard-earned tax dollars.
Another classic case of projection by tools of tools.
In actuality, it is reverse robin hood that has been going on. It is fraudlent, illegal, cruel, self-centered and highly immoral. It must and will end.

[Cumberland Guy]

69. Well, we don't necessarily have the whole story here - really.

I'm probably going to get in trouble with all of you but I did want to point out a few things with this.

First of all, a CEO salary is rarely in cash. A large part of it can be stock and/or stock options, i.e. ownership of the company. Many Boards of Directors feel that this is a good idea as a CEO with ownership in the company will work harder to keep the company successful. So his yearly salary is most likely much less than $41 million.

While I really feel bad for this guy, the fact is that we don't live in a guaranteed employment economy. Even if you have been somewhere for 20 years you are usually an employee at will. That means YOU can leave anytime you want, and that means the employer can let you go anytime he/she wants. Again, this is a tragedy for this guy, but I'm not sure what he wants.

Furthermore, what if his job was indeed one of those jobs that we just eventually just don't need anymore. I remember seeing an advertisement in some 1960's or maybe even 1970's magazine for typewriter repair. Perhaps this guy was the "typewriter repair" guy of his company. Would any of you be in favor of keeping the typewriter repair guy employed at YOUR company? Maybe a new technology was invented that made the processes of his company more efficient. And that new technology requires HIRING at another company. Such is the case in a modern vibrant economy. (although I would not describe our debt/economy/employment as vibrant these days!) This guy should consider himself somewhat fortunate to have only one job that long. Most of the rest of us will have probably had 5 or 6 jobs in that period.

What is weird is that at my company we still do have a typewriter that we still need occasionally. #weird

Again, this has been a tragedy for this guy and I feel terrible, but what does he want? Does he want the CEO salary reduced so that his (probably) outdated/inefficient job can be saved? What if there is 100 "typewriter repair" guys at this company? What if there was 1,000? Should they all get lifetime employment? What if the cost of saving his inefficient job was at the cost of your productive/valuable job.

We don't know what company this is but it sounds pretty large. I would be willing to bet (for some of you) that the Colleges and Universities YOU went to have their endowment funds (at least partially) are invested in this company. Your parents probably had mutual funds to pay for your college education. Those mutual funds invest in hundreds and sometimes thousands of companies. I guess my point is...YOU may/probably benefited from the profitability of this company.

I welcome your thoughts.

[City Lights]

72. No shit. It's kinda hard to put the "whole story" on a poster board - really.

But his poster summed up the problem quite nicely.

[socialindependocrat]

81. People like you-

Granted you may have wanted to give a rounded picture of what was going on...

BUT

I have friends like you who say the same stuff!
"But these are the rules"
"But the company has the right"
"But these people can't expect"

What people want is the right to get a job and if they continue to do a good job,
to have continued employment.

By saying that this is the way things are, does that mean that you are happy
that you can loose your job and have to work at Home Depot for half your pay?

People want stability and to be able to say . "I will have a job making a certain amount
of money and THEREFORE, I can afford to buy a house."

I think that if the CEO makes cuts in the company and looses emloyees that this is a failure
on his part and should have his bonus decreased.

What we need are people who are willing to come up with solutions to the current problems
so that the American worker can have some security in their life and not listen to some
bullshit about "WHO MOVED THE CHEESE"!!!!!

Every decision our government makes should be focused on making life better for ALL the people.

CEOs are employees of the company - they know what they're doing!
There isn't a CEO who wouldn't take a raise when offered.
Someone needs to regulate the 275% increase in salaries !!!!

This country is having trouble rebuilding the economy because "out leaders"
have cut the wages of the middle class to the point where they have little
or no "disposable" income with which to buy products.

Start to think "for the people" not - Well, those are the rules!!!!

[Mosaic]

70. We have a monster system

It absolutely, without a doubt, no arguments, must be reformed and re-examined from the bottom to top, top to bottom. Corporatism must end.

[AsahinaKimi]

76. I remember reading a story a few years back

of a couple in Schenectady, NY who worked for GENERAL ELECTRIC for thirty years. Both were due to retire with a pension. Both were fired...before their time was up, and were left out in the cold, with not so much as a thank you. The reason they were fired? The company claimed they were no longer needed.


That kind of says is all, doesn't it...

[watercolors]

77. Just happen to our oldest son, 57, 21yrs with company!!

He was shocked,and is so angery. Third one layed off in our family in that age group.

[2pooped2pop]

78. I'm going and I just might use it . Thank U very much.

Haven't really thought my sign through yet. But I will put this one in the running.

Don't know what kind of sign to do either. We used poster board like a sandwich board before, and it's nice coz you don't have to hold them. However, in a large crowd, they can get in the way.
Sometimes wood or spikes or anything that you would put your sign on and carry, are not allowed.(considered weapons) Don't want to end up with a sign I can't use, plus you have to keep it with you all the time which would be a hassle.
I think the best was a large sheet sized cloth. We can unfurl this and carry it, or fold it up and put it in a backpack. Problem with this one is you need a double layer really and backpack space is very limited.
Maybe, just put something on a t-shirt and wear my sign? Hmmmm. That might work.

Oops, sorry to ramble but your post got me wondering about my sign. I'll try to let you know if I use it and try to make it to the live feed camera so you can see it, if I do.

[mopinko]

79. photo looks legit, too.

taken to taking a close look at these photos, since so many of theirs are phony.

[ThatsMyBarack]

80. Grabbing hands....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahO2ZyxHTIc&feature=related