Just who would actually vote for Ron Paul?

[SoutherDem]

It seems every other day I hear some new detail of Ron Paul's plan for our country. From what I can tell, the government will basically have a small military, small justice department and a few other constitutionally required things but the rest would end. Leaving all but the rich to become vagrants. His plan goes beyond "class warfare" it would boarder on genocide. Why does anyone even give this man the time of day? The bad thing is I know a few people who think he would be a great president. :banghead:

[mmonk]

1. He has a cult following. He will get some primary votes.

[teddy51]

2. A better question is, who would vote for anyone of these moran's that are

running on the right? If anyone of them were to become President, we the American citizens will be in a whole lot of hurt (much worse than we are right now).

[DesertFlower]

10. i agree. nt

[Kennah]

3. True Randian believers are a lost fucking cause

Other people who flirt with the idea of Ron Paul are either not well read about the guy or they hate the country.

[Brother Buzz]

4. He could be tried and convicted of molesting and killing a Boy Scout and....

his followers would still proudly vote for him, they're that far removed from reality.

[redqueen]

5. Idiots.

There is no shortage of them, sadly.

[Gamow]

6. People who read Ayn Rand, and drank her koolaid. nt

[NNN0LHI]

8. The ones I know can't read

[mdmc]

7. I would vote for him if nys had an open primary

[RegieRocker]

15. Smart

[bahrbearian]

23. LOL

Upon edit I meant to reply to the poster too, but this works.

[mdmc]

35. ..

thanks for the reply..
peace and low stress..

[PeaceNikki]

18. gross

[mdmc]

26. who better Nikki?

If I had a vote in the NYS GOP primary, I would vote for Ron Paul. Who would you vote for?

[MedleyMisty]

9. An ex-friend of mine

said he would vote for a Kucinich/Paul ticket.

He'd been talking to an upper middle class white teenage male who had recently discovered objectivism, and I'm way way way over on the left, and so I guess he was trying to meet us in the middle?

[Poll_Blind]

11. You ain't kiddin'. A Ron Paul presidency is like the wasteland scene from the Matrix.

And I mean that only a little figuratively.

I think most people who prop up Paul are the well-meaning but not too inquisitive types. Ron Paul is like the mild-mannered anti-Christ but people fall for that mild-mannered shit. They don't look beneath the surface.

And it doesn't help that every Ron Paul supporter within fifty nautical miles of a bitching Democrat or Republican can somehow smell their dissatisfaction like a fucking shark and pop up from behind a convenient corner to start preaching the gospel.

People like....well, like most of the Republican candidates for President...they wear their crazy on their sleeve. With Paul, the hook is so buried in the red meat (like ending the wars) most people want to go after that they don't even think about the rest of his policies.

PB

[PeaceNikki]

16. This ^

Well said.

[Fumesucker]

12. The most "liberal" person I know..

All of the rest are probably gonna vote for Perry..

Sometimes it sucks living in the South.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

13. People who don't know shit about politics

They hate all politicans, but like him because he's "outside the box".

[redqueen]

39. +1

[Major Nikon]

14. The morans around Galveston keep voting for him

[wildbilln864]

17. there's ron paul signs all over....

here in the upstate. He seems to be popular here in the bible belt. :shrug:

[astral]

19. Why don't you post some of the polls and we'll SEE who's really voting for Ron Paul?

Ron Paul – 37 percent
Herman Cain – 23 percent
Rick Santorum – 16 percent
Rick Perry – 8 percent
Michele Bachmann – 8 percent
Mitt Romney – 4 percent
Newt Gingrich – 3 percent
Undecided – 1 percent
Jon Huntsman – 0 percent

[chollybocker]

20. People who think "Kill the Fed!!!" is a rational argument.

Not to mention, "Let him die!!!" :eyes:

[JanMichael]

21. A douchebag? nt?

[TBF]

22. We have an open primary in TX and I plan to vote for him instead of Perry. nt

[MrMickeysMom]

24. Here's a recent e-mail about Paul from my best friend's brother...

... in true wing nut fashion he says of Paul...

The ONLY candidate who is not big government nanny state is Ron Paul. Sign of the times: A guy who has voted on principle for liberty and government UNDER the Constitution for the last 20 years is derided as an unelectable kook. The establishment's hatred and fear of Paul tell's you everything you need to know to make an informed decision.

[Ikonoklast]

43. Ask him if he can square Paul's willingness to have the government intrude into reproductive rights

which is a blatant abuse of personal liberty by the state.

The right for women to have control over their own bodies has been adjudicated as Constitutional, and any interference with those rights is the epitome of a 'Nanny State'.

In 2005 and 2007, Paul introduced the Sanctity of Life Act, which would define human life as beginning from conception, removing abortion from federal jurisdiction and effectively negating Roe v. Wade. Paul has also introduced a Constitutional amendment with similar intent. Such laws would permit states to declare abortion to be murder and to outlaw new fetal stem cell research and some contraception and fertility treatments. Also in 2005 and 2007, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would forbid all federal courts from adjudicating abortion as well as same-sex marriage, sexual practices, and government display of religious symbols. The Act would make federal decisions on those subjects nonbinding as state precedent, and would forbid federal courts from spending money to enforce their judgments.

From Wiki.

So, if there is a Constitutional issue that doesn't square with Paul's positions, his answer is to amend the Constitution.

[Prophet 451]

25. Randroids, kooks, his cult of worshippers

Seriously, Paul has a cult of personality around him that I haven't seen before in politics. I actually quite like Ron Paul for the simple reason that he's up-front with his views. You don't have to parse everything and work out what he really means, it's just there. Makes a pleasent change sometimes.

[JHB]

27. People who think listening to Beck and RW blabbers makes them informed...

...judging by some relatives.

[mwooldri]

28. I know of one person: Ron Paul himself.

As for anyone else, I have heard no one specifically told me they would vote for him.

[madokie]

29. My supposedly Democratic neighbor

He loves him. :shrug:
says he voted for obama but I'd bet the farm that his hypocritical ass didn't, if I was a betting man that is. This fella thinks a flat tax would be good too amongst many other undemocratic ideas.

ETA: Dude thinks that anyone getting any type of welfare from food stamps on should be drug tested before every check arrives at their address. Claims to be a Christian too but my hunch is if I'm wrong and there is a hell he'll be there at the head of the class.

[redqueen]

40. You'd be surprised how many Christian Dems I know who say

the same kind of thing about welfare and food stamps.

[Erose999]

30. Ron Paul has a striking resemblance to other CULT LEADERS...

Young Ron Paul:



Young Charles Manson:

[opihimoimoi]

31. Only the sick & uninformed would support the dude

[FormerDittoHead]

32. Here's how out of touch with reality they are - they want taxes to be VOLUNTARY - like DONATIONS.

One of their favorite mantras is they don't want taxes collected "at the point of a gun"

btw: http://www.google.com/search?q=collect+taxes+%22at+the+point+of+a+gun%22

...returns almost 44 *MILLION* hits.

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[VOX]

34. Who would follow the Rev. Jim Jones all the way to Guyana, and do whatever he demanded?

The number of people who are gullible enough to surrender their own free will is astonishing -- they are too fearful to think for themselves, so they abdicate critical thought, and hitch themselves to a Jim Jones, a Lyndon LaRouche, a Ron Paul, or some other lightning rod. On the surface, these "leaders" appear benign, but a little background digging reveals another story altogether.

The more uncertain times are (such as the present), the more fear runs unchecked. The more fear, the greater the desperation for any solution that promises to restore some order out of chaos, even if it means scapegoating another segment of society. This is exactly how Hitler and his lieutenants came into power in post-WWI Germany.

[krabigirl]

36. The smaller military sounds nice. also, smaller DOJ and federal oversight. the rest, not really.

[War Horse]

37. Some leftists seem to think "he has some good points"

Exemplified by some posters here, sadly.

[Upton]

44. He does have some good points..

like in ending the WOD and the never ending wars in the ME. Now, I wouldn't vote for Paul because of some of the other shit he advocates, but that doesn't negate the fact that he has at least two ideas I wish the Democratic leadership would follow..

[Motown_Johnny]

38. Rand Paul?

The problem with these guys is that they see a ceiling where they should see a floor. They think that if the Constitution says to do it, then it is unconstitutional to do any more than that.

The accurate interpretation is that if the Constitution says to do it, then is unconstitutional to do any less than that.

[Texasgal]

41. My neighbor.

He is a true freak. Wants to cut his SS card up and arms himself to the teeth. He has stockpile of food and has built a "generator house" in his old garden shed. He has all kinds of cameras and trip wires around his place. He's a FREAK.

That's who.

[REP]

42. I know someone who thinks he can end the wars by himself yet not enact his crazy policies

I have tried to point out the logical fallacy of that - plus he's a batshit crazy racist misogynist - but my mother no longer shocks me with what she can't figure out.