Solitary Confinement For 10 Days-"WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE"!

[kpete]

Julian Assange: WikiLeaks faces 'very aggressive' investigation by US

Organization's founder says he is reliant on public opinion to rein in 'superpower that does not appear to be following rule of law'


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange holds the Guardian WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange holds up a copy of the Guardian as he addresses media in the grounds of Ellingham Hall in Norfolk. Photograph: Carl Court/AFP/Getty Images

.......................

Speaking to reporters outside Ellingham Hall, the Norfolk house at which he is staying on bail following his release from prison, Assange said WikiLeaks faced "what appears to be an illegal investigation ... certain people who are alleged to be affiliated to us have been detained, followed around, had their computers seized and so on".

He said he believed it was "80% likely" that the US authorities were seeking to prepare an attempt to have him extradited there to face charges of espionage.

He added that he was reliant on public opinion to rein in "a superpower that does not appear to be following the rule of law".

............

"That is something that actually needs monitoring, it needs scrutiny," he said. "We have seen this with the Swedish prosecutor in representations to the British government here, and the British courts say that it did not need to provide a shred of evidence – said this three times – and in fact has provided nothing, not a single shred of evidence in its extradition hearings, in the hearings that ended up putting me in solitary confinement for 10 days.

[stray cat]

1. what about the poor guy he got to steal the documents?

[MineralMan]

3. You must be kidding. Assange doesn't care about him.

Assange is Rockstar of The Year, according to Rolling Stone Italy. He's a bona fide celebrity now. He doesn't have to care.

[girl gone mad]

15. He ddoesn't have to care about anyone else because our government has made him famous./

and all celebrities are heartless sociopaths.

:crazy: :crazy:

[xiamiam]

16. puh lease..wake up..nt

[harun]

7. lol, you think he put him up to it?

I hope you are being sarcastic.

[Vincardog]

9. Did anyone offer any evidence that Assange 'got' anyone to do anything? Maybe the poor guy has a

CONSCIENCE.

[ljm2002]

10. Wikileaks is a platform for whistle blowers...

...there has never been any indication that Julian Assange nor anyone else associated with Wikileaks actively recruited individuals to make submissions.

[cleanhippie]

13. He got Bradley to steal documents?

Really? Can you source that, as I had not heard that before.

[xiamiam]

17. made it up..nt

[Pavulon]

19. (1:51:25 PM) bradass87: i'd have to ask assange.. google and read the redacted logs

i would love to see what was removed. looks like conspiracy if there is any evidence assange spoke to him during the crime.

[Occam Bandage]

30. If Assange "got" Manning to steal the documents, then he's going to be charged with conspiracy. nt

[Matariki]

33. Why are you repeating unfounded BULLSHIT?

There's no evidence he got anyone to steal anything. Any any evidence coming from a person kept in solitary confinement, not allowed access to lawyers or family or allowed exercise, a pillow or blanket - THEN offered a bargain in exchange for confirming made up shit - is NOT evidence, it has no credibility.

Why are YOU repeating this crap?

[Pavulon]

40. manning has legal council.

his lack of a pillow is not relevant to trading out a death penalty case for 60 years in solitary.

[gratuitous]

2. More time in jail than Scooter Libby

Is it becoming clear how this works?

[leveymg]

11. And, the AIPAC guys got to walk free. Prosecution ended by Holder

because there was no real grounds to convict the recipients of classified documents. At least, that's the way it worked out a few months ago for Weissman and Rosen.

[Peace Patriot]

31. Thank you for that update! USA, thy name is HYPOCRISY! nt

[leveymg]

36. No sh-t! We've taken hypocrisy and turned it into outcomes-determined jurisprudence in the U.S.

The fancy language of law is just to keep the non-reading public at bay.

[Vincardog]

4. To be clear he is not guilty of ANYTHING. Whom ever gave him the Classified material is the one

If they were sworn to keep it secret. Assange did not break any oath. He is a journalist if he says he is a journalist.

[Pavulon]

22. which covers him to publish, not conspire

take a story from pov of person embezzling from a charity or bank. A reporter could publish information but they could not take part in the stealing. journalism is not a magic thing that grants immunity.

It is really that simple.

[Vincardog]

25. What CONSPIRACY are you charging?

[Pavulon]

26. I;m speculating based on bradass logs

assange was part of the criminal act.

[Vincardog]

27. THE DOJ said he is not NO CRIME was committed

[Pavulon]

29. what? they are looking at him for conspiracy.(nt)

[Vincardog]

28. THE DOJ said he is not NO CRIME was committed

[Matariki]

35. Pavulon. You are such a tool. LOL

[Pavulon]

37. wow that was such an elegant retort to the legal concepts posted(nt)

[Matariki]

41. Oh no, just referring to your posts in general.

;-)

[HopeHoops]

5. No offense intended toward Assange, but in 40 years he's going to look like Joe Lieberman.

Poor guy.

[GSLevel9]

6. that's the law...

if one nation asks for extradition, the other nation MUST go and grab the guy and 1) hold him in jail or 2) release him on bail pending an extradition HEARING.

During the extradition HEARING process he will have an opportunity to explain WHY he feels he's innocent and shouldn't be sent back.

The system works well and Assange will have his chance to plea his case/

[Vincardog]

12. Does the law say he has to be held in Solitary confinement?

[GSLevel9]

14. General population would have been better? Lol. Nt

[unblock]

20. solitary was for his protection, not for his punishment.

but it helps strengthen assange's case that he's being treated inequitably.
he hasn't officially been charged with anything in the u.s. and is only charged with a lesser form of rape in sweden.
when was the last time you ever heard anyone being held in solitary for that?

[jberryhill]

24. Just out of curiousity, if you were arrested and held on a warrant...

Honestly... would you want to have roommates who were being held on violent crimes and whatnot?

[EFerrari]

32. The US routinely ignores requests for extradition. n/t

[wildbilln864]

8. K&R! nt

[glinda]

18. I feel we must keep on this. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Assange is risking his life

doing this. Manning also has suffered gross mistreatment.
Assange must not enter US soil ever at all. Ever.

[Pavulon]

21. He will be here charged with conspiracy. thats my bet..

and manning will testify and produce logged evidence to prove it to avoid execution for espionage. Manning serves life in florence and assange may get a few years, may get 25, may get nothing.

But he will be extradited here.

[ronnie624]

38. Your "bet" is a surrogate for that which you support.

Have the courage to speak unequivocally for what you believe in.

[MilesColtrane]

23. The UK doesn't have to, and shouldn't, provide evidence in an extradition hearing.

The UK is a member of the European Union and it must abide by the law concerning European Arrest Warrants.

[EFerrari]

34. But the UK could have and should have refused to act

on an INTERPOL red notice for a witness in a case where the offense is minor.

[Peace Patriot]

39. I think you are ignoring the fact that Assange HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH ANY CRIME,

and the ONLY basis of the Swedish arrest warrant was that he is ALLEGED to have had sex in Sweden without a condom. NO CHARGES HAVE BEEN FILED. THAT is the absurd ALLEGATION on which this whistleblower was held in solitary confinement for 10 days.

The injustice to Assange is egregious and no amount of nazi-like legal nitpicking can disguise it.

Sometimes the law is used to grievously harm people--up to and including USING the Law, on paper benign, in practice NOT benign, to falsely imprison, to rob, to kill, to torture and to commit genocide.

That is what occurred here--nazi-like nitpicking of the law to arrest and punish a JOURNALIST in order to "render" him to the U.S. for a witch trial.

U.S. politicians have already called for his DEATH!

These are scurrilous, abominable legal goings on in England. Utterly wrong. Utterly immoral. And utterly in violation of the spirit of the Law in Europe and England, and, at one time, in the USA.

In case you hadn't noticed, OUR Bill of Rights was scuttled a while ago. Dead. Gone. Fini. And now, apparently, whatever the U.S. "military-industrial complex" says about OTHER PEOPLES' human and civil rights, goes. Our war criminals run free while a JOURNALIST who has acted to expose them is stripped of habeas corpus, stripped of his property, stripped of his web sites, stripped of his freedom, imprisoned and likely to be turned over to those whom he has tried to expose.

I don't care WHAT "fine print" of "the Law" his persecutors use to accomplish this. IT. IS. WRONG.

[MilesColtrane]

42. Correct.

He is not cooperating in an investigation of a possible crime.

It's not just that he supposedly had sex without a condom.

The two women allege that they said no, and that he ignored them.

One of the accusers said:

‘In both cases, the sex had been consensual from the start but had eventually turned into abuse.’
Rejecting accusations of an international plot to trap Assange, she added: ‘The accusations were not set up by the Pentagon or anybody else. The responsibility for what happened to me and the other girl lies with a man with a twisted view of women, who has a problem accepting the word “no”.’


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336291/Wikileaks-Julian-Assanges-2-night-stands-spark-worldwide-hunt.html#ixzz18PU4tGM5

The U.S. has extradition treaties with both the U.K. and Sweden, so the idea that Assange is especially in peril of being snatched by the U.S. if he goes to Sweden is just wrong.

[Peace Patriot]

43. He has NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME. I don't care WHAT somebody alleges.

They've had these allegations for what, a month? NO CHARGES FILED!

I just read the additional rape allegation details (Guardian). It is a classic she said/he said situation, in which it is virtually impossible to know the truth, alleged RIGHT AT THE MOMENT of the release of thousands of embarrassing and revealing U.S. foreign policy documents, against a JOURNALIST whom U.S. politicians have said SHOULD BE ASSASSINATED!

How can people fall for this? I just don't understand it. It utterly demeans women to use rape charges this way--and it weakens protections against rape. It is a cynical assault on women's rights, among other things.

[LadyHawkAZ]

44. R'Amen on your women's rights comment

Buyer's remorse does not equate to rape, sexual assault or molestation. "It's early morning and I can't be bothered to say no" does not equate to rape (etc). I think he was a total jerk for refusing to take a test, but being a jerk does not equate to rape. You do not get to withdraw consent days after the act takes place on account of him being an asshole. I'm a rape survivor twice over, and this disgusts me.

I think "W"'s story is probably genuine and she is the one I feel sorry for, as it seems she's been ill-treated on one side and ill-used on the other. I do not feel that "A"'s story is genuine at all.

[PBS Poll-435]

45. Woohoo!

:shrug: