Stereotypical DUer

[salinen]

This is for tealurkers. How to spot a progressive.

- We like the idea of protecting endangered species.
- You probably won't see many of us at a monster truck event.
- We might avoid a John Voigt or Mel Gibson movie.
- Probably more interested in seeing Hoover Dam than Las Vegas.
- TV won't be on Fox.
- No pork rinds.
- We have no problem with a 13.7 billion year old universe.
- We think it's a bad idea to let sick people die because they can't afford HC.
- It's none of our business how people pair up. It's actually beautiful.
- We think Multi-nationals and the Military Industrial Complex have agendas.
- We know there is no gay agenda.
- And environmentalists are not terrorists.
- And Muslims are fine.
- Assault weapons are really about killing people, not hunting.
- Iraq & Afghanistan are wars of choice.
- Saddam had no WMD's.
- One cold day does not discredit global climate change.
- An elevated level of hate will not impress god.

And on and on. I know there are some du'ers who probably love monster truck events. I apologize in advance.

[cleanhippie]

1. Whats wrong with pork rinds?

They are delicious!


And what is your definition of an "assault weapon". Once that term is agreed upon (which it's not, not even in existing laws) we can see if we all agree on that or not.

[niceypoo]

2. Assault weapon = military rifle

[cleanhippie]

5. Still do not know what that means.

Do you mean the rifles actual military people use or the civilian counterparts that LOOK similar but are not automatic weapons?

[justiceischeap]

9. How about a gun that shoots so many bullets a second

That if a hunter used it on an animal, it would shred the animal to bits.

[cleanhippie]

11. So you mean automatic weapons then?

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

43. ALL semiautomatic weapons shoot as fast the user can pull the trigger...

even the century old semiautmatic weapons. What are you talking about ???

Also, most states have ammunition capacity limits for hunting... usually 3-5 rounds.
I don't see how ANY rate of fire will shred any large animal with only 5 shots.

[reggie the dog]

49. you confuse semi and fully automatic

semi automatic means you squeeze the trigger one time per bullet and fully automatic means you hold the trigger and multiple bullets fly out.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

59. The post I was responding to was talking about assault weapons...

as assumed by the topic o the sub-thread.
What do assault weapons have anything to do with ully automatic firearms?

[reggie the dog]

61. i posted in the wrong place

[hatrack]

91. Can we get back to what matters, please - PORK RINDS

P.O.R.K. R.I.N.D.S.

And what, pray tell, might be wrong with them????

:hi:

[reggie the dog]

102. mmmm

deep fried pig skin.......

[niceypoo]

67. Yes, you do know what I mean

[cleanhippie]

83. no, I don't, because you have not defined it.

What you stated is way to open to interpretation. Simply define what you mean. I think my question above is appropriate.

[niceypoo]

117. Assault weapon = military rifle

It isnt rocket science

[cleanhippie]

118. I take it you are not a rocket scientist, then?

Because while the difference is not rocket science, it is not as easy as you are implying. There are major differences between rifles issued by the military and SIMILAR rifles available to the public. Do you know what those differences are? Can you define the term "assault rifle"?
We cannot have a conversation on this topic unless we both know what we are talking about. Without defining what you mean, we will probably be talking about two very different items. You are either you are unable or unwilling to define the term you are using, and regardless of the reason, until you do, we cannot have an intelligent, informed conversation on the matter.
I will be here when you are ready to explain what you are talking about.

[datasuspect]

7. what's wrong with military rifles?

[niceypoo]

66. Nothing, if you are in the military

Because they exist only to kill humans

[datasuspect]

68. i dunno, a BAR against some old teevees or paint cans is a pretty nice way to spend

the day drinking beer and relaxing with friends.

[Kaleva]

72. military rifles are controlled by the National Firearms Act of 1934

At least the modern rifles which are capable of full auto fire are.

[salinen]

4. go ahead

munch pork rinds. I'd hate to look at your couch without the cushions on. Assault weapons? Can't we agree that they're not for hunting animals?

[cleanhippie]

10. Everything in moderation....

A few pork rinds now and then won't clog arteries or make one fat, especially of one exercises regularly, as I do, so my couch cushions look like new. But thanks for your concern.

We can agree what they are and are not for when we first agree exactly what constitutes an assault weapon.

[onehandle]

26. Who fucking cares? How about 'Weapon of Mass Human Destruction?'

As far as I am concerned, that 31 bullet Glock used to attempt an assassination of a Democratic House member IS an 'assault weapon.'

It assaulted that 9-year old girl, pretty fucking effectively.

Nobody cares about the gungeon terminology police.

[blondeatlast]

30. What OH said.

:thumbsup:

[X_Digger]

38. And *that* is why the term has no meaning anymore.

If it means everything, then it means nothing.

Why not go full-hyperbole and call it a 'weapon of mass destruction'-- that one hasn't been so bent out of shape as to be meaningless- yet.

[cleanhippie]

53. Well, I am just glad that "as far as you are concerned" has no bearing on the debate then.

So much for a rational conversation.

[aikoaiko]

54. apparently you care deeply,

[cherokeeprogressive]

79. There is no such thing as a "31 bullet Glock". n/t

[Recursion]

96. They aren't powerful enough to hunt deer

Seriously.

[NMDemDist2]

92. +1, I like pork rinds (especially with hot sauce) n/t

[slay]

94. That was the one I wondered about too!

out of everything - it's pork rinds that Dems disagree on. lol. i don't eat um much these days, but i used to, and my dad does and he's a lifelong Dem.

[mimitabby]

110. I agree, what's wrong with pork rinds?

I don't eat them but lots of good people do.

[WilliamPitt]

3. And we eat at the Olive Garden

Oh, wait...

;)

[IDemo]

6. while breastfeeding our pitbulls..

[WilliamPitt]

16. While smoking

[OneGrassRoot]

25. ...

:spray:

[donheld]

93. Circumcised Pit Bulls at that

:hide::D

[Nihil]

116. Now *that* is a job that I willingly leave to others ...!

:yoiks:

[lonestarnot]

14. snort

:rofl:

[Mojorabbit]

28. We bread our chicken with cornflakes. nt

[blondeatlast]

31. NEVER!

Obviously a stealth troll...

[Ghost in the Machine]

46. I still wanna know why your wife, Olive Pitt, broke Dennis Kucinich's tooth?

:hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

104. +1!

:rofl: :hide:

[lpbk2713]

8. Speaking for myself ...

I'm pro-labor, anti-megacorp.

[Betty Karlson]

114. And that makes one a progressive?

Reading the above, as well as the OP, I might consider myself a progressive!

Philosphically, I'm actually more of a small conservative. It is so silly how the word conservatism has been highjacked by a bunch of obnoxious radicals. There is actually a strong conservative case for unions, gay marriage, environmental protection, et alii.

I don't think being a progressive is compulsory, to share those ideals. Being open-minded, daring to question yourself, now that is a different matter.

[somone]

12. Don't forget the banksters

[RB TexLa]

13. You forgot "Ain't no foreigners good enough for me to buy anything from"

[Fumesucker]

17. Unless of course they happen to be Japanese and make cars..

Then we love 'em..

[RB TexLa]

19. I don't fall into that category, I happen to know that non-Americans are equal human beings to

Americans and just as worthy of having a job.

[Fumesucker]

21. That burning smell?

It's your snarkometer.

[rucky]

15. I was with you up to pork rinds. n/t

[salinen]

18. I seem to have touched a nerve

with you porksters.

[DCKit]

20. Something is rising to the top, but it ain't cream. nt

[salinen]

22. Which reminds me

- And check our Latte's. They may be soy.

[UTUSN]

23. K&R #19. Add, We ain't skeered of people beyond the Southern Border. n/t

[Enthusiast]

44. They'll cut your head off!

[Hydra]

24. Hey! What about Braveheart!

"FREEDOM!!!!"

Also, cold day is due to a messaging problem. "Global Warming" sounded cool, but "Climate Change (and not in a good way)" would have been a better way to start.

Also, add to your list that we like it when people tell the truth....well, some of us like it when people tell the truth. :evilgrin:

[petronius]

39. Braveheart, Mad Max, and Gallipoli are deal-breakers for me on that

particular item...

:)

[Codeine]

40. Braveheart was awful, but Gallipoli was great. nt

[Hydra]

45. I guess I have a special place in my heart for bad movies with a message

Conspiracy Theory, They Live, The Puppet Masters :p

[Codeine]

27. I watched one of those Monster Jam things once on Fuel or Speed Channel.

Kinda neat. Smashing stuff is cool.

[blondeatlast]

34. I took my son to one; we had free tix. Kinda fun--not something I'd ever find myself nuts about. nt

[NightWatcher]

29. Dams are an abomination, I love pork rinds and own two big bad scary rifles

but then again I'm a radical environmentalist and not "typical" anything

[seabeyond]

32. seeing Hoover Dam than Las Vegas.... this si funny. i was so impressed with hoover damn

made sure a couple decades later when heading west we went that way so kids could see it. i thought i was being messed up. but hubby and kids loved it

[Nevernose]

33. I happen to live in Las Vegas

Granted, I'm more inclined to frequent one of our many fine (albeit small) museums or participate in the burgeoning local arts scene than go to a casino, but in 25 years here, I have never toured Hoover Dam. Never got around to it.

[Generic Other]

35. sounds like me

also add like chocolate and hate walmarts with crap made in china.

[roguevalley]

37. don't forget. we agree that the civil war is over and THEY LOST!

[Edweird]

36. 15 1/2 out of 18. Is that a passing grade?

[salinen]

75. D-

you pass.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

41. I only got about 7.5 out of 18... how did I do?

[salinen]

76. 7.5 huh

that's teabag territory.

[Enthusiast]

42. I have to draw the line

on pork rinds. Try 'em, you'll like 'em.

[Hosnon]

47. I attended a monster truck event a few weeks ago. Official Report: Not missing anything. nt.

[cynatnite]

48. And add that the EPA, FDA, and others are there to protect Americans. n/t

[taterguy]

50. There's no H in Jon Voight's first name

Says the stereotypical DU Spelling Nazi

[name not needed]

52. Maybe it's a different John Voight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm2iNNqj2fQ

[patrice]

51. - We have a more profound responsibility to ANY born babies than we do to fetuses.

[Cheap_Trick]

55. I LOVE pork rinds.

Mostly just the mesquite bbq ones.

And I would LOVE to go to Vegas someday....and see Hoover Dam while I'm there.

[aikoaiko]

56. I think you need to get to know more Southern Democrats.

;)

[Lorien]

57. I drive a Prius with a peace symbol on it, a "coexist" decal on the rear window,

a Sigg bottle in the cupholder and reusable hemp bags in the trunk, a "save our wild places" license plate, and a few New Yorkers in the rear seat pocket for passengers. Could I be more of a stereotype?

[RiverStone]

58. I learned early on in DU, it's best to avoid sterotypes

I assumed that DUers would not drive gas guzzling SUVs --- wrong! Did I ever get pitched shit for that.

We believe in a big BLUE tent here; and there is even room for Monster Truck Races (though I have never been).

[Kaleva]

60. +1

[cutlassmama]

62. Tend to agree with all of the above.

:toast:

[Curmudgeoness]

63. 18 out of 18 for me. I can't speak for everyone, but

you hit the nail on the head for me.

[BluegrassDem]

64. I LOVE pork rinds and Las Vegas!!

I guess I'm not a stereotypical DU'er, but I sure am progressive.

[Lucian]

65. 18/18

[Tripod]

115. This is very funny! :) n/t

[supernova]

69. I like pork rinds. 17/18

:-)

:hi:

[salinen]

107. A-

but still progressive.

[H2O Man]

70. Recommended.

Well done!

I believe that I am about average among DUers. The tea stains that dislike DUers should direct their concerns my way.

[Arkana]

71. Why can't liberals enjoy pork rinds?

[salinen]

74. You can eat them

just don't enjoy them.

[Safetykitten]

73. "We think it's a bad idea to let sick people die because they can't afford HC."

In theory.

[WildEyedLiberal]

77. In all seriousness, I have NEVER understood why cultural things are included in these litmus tests

Seriously: WHAT do pork rinds have to do with a person's politics? Or monster trucks? And don't tell me it's because of the meat industry blah blah, or else you would've said that a "typical progressive" must be a vegetarian, and that would've caused an even bigger shitstorm. I think you picked pork rinds because they are most common in the south, and everyone knows that there are no progressive southerners :eyes:

Frankly, I think that not judging people because they make different cultural or lifestyle choices than you is far more of a progressive value than not liking pork rinds, but what do I know?

[saras]

78. I must be a radical

1 - Except for humans. 1/2
2 - I prefer farm combine demolition derbies. 1/2
3 - I avoid movies in general. 2
4 - Both take too much travel. 2
5 - No TV for thirty-five years. 2
6 - No pork. 2
7 - Can't see why the universe should CARE if I have a problem with it. 2
8 - Got me there. 1
9 - As long as it's not coercive, I don't even care about the 'pair' part. 2
10 - Agenda is too strong a word - how about lust? 2
11 - Disagree. The gay agenda is "don't torture us to death. After we're there, let's talk." 1/2
12 - Self-defense. Even Earth First, PETA, etc. 2
13 - They have the same issue Christians do, which is that they refuse to disown their nutcases. 1/2
14 - Assault weapons are about terrorism. Only a few do actual killing. 2
15 - Whose choice? Surely not the Afghanis. Wars of empire. 2
16 - Got me there. 1
17 - Global weirding. 2
18 - Yes it does, just not the god you approve of. The guy with the cloven hooves and horns loves it. 2

Score 28 out of 18.

[Terra Alta]

80. I actually like pork rinds.

But as for the rest, yep, I agree.

[delightfulstar]

81. All of the above...

May I add:

- We hate Sprawl Mart
- We try to support our local economies whenever possible
- We can be spiritual, or religious, or secular, or all of the above, without compromising our political principles
- We believe in a free and fair society, and in giving opportunities to as many as possible
- You won't see us spewing hate back at a Freeper, but you'll certainly see us engaging in a passionate debate with them, if need be
- We believe that it's not about race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. - it's about the HUMAN race, as diversity opens our minds to new opportunities

[Very_Boring_Name]

82. I got all of them except one. Sorry, but I'll take Vegas anyday

:D

[stevenleser]

84. A couple of issues

1. I like Vegas as I think do many Democrats/Progressives/Liberals. In fact, I think it is us that like Vegas more than Conservatives and fundies.

2. Many of us do not think Afghanistan was a war of choice

3. there is a disagreement re: whether multinationals and the MIC actually influence policy or to what degree

4. To people who have tried the Atkins diet, to include many Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, pork rinds were suggested as a carb free snack.

[Raine]

85. Glad you didn't include Cheetos in the list because I like them.

I'm also more interested Las Vegas than Hoover Dam. I've seen the Dam once that was enough for me but Vegas I can go to again and again. :o

[1620rock]

87. Meat (read pork-rinds) is murder.

[Raine]

88. I'm a vegetarian, no way would I go near a pork

rind. :puke:

[teachthemwell15]

86. Works for me. NT

[-..__...]

89. Meh... I can sum up the stereotypical DUer with one video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eGWW8KOQio

:smoke:

[MrMickeysMom]

90. Fucking hilarious...

I'll have some of what you're having.... :rofl:

[HEyHEY]

95. What did Jon Voigt do?

[JHB]

99. Repeatedly say that we (lberals/progressives) are out to destroy America

[JVS]

101. Go batshit crazy.

[JVS]

103. Too bad the people's republic won't let you watch youtube but here is a brief

"Message to America" that he gave on Mike Huckabee's show on Fox News.

"In one year the American people are witnessing the greatest lie that is cleverly orchestrated by President Obama and his whole administration. The lie is a potent aggression that feeds the needs of people who either have not educated themselves enough to understand the assault upon us all, or the very poor and needy who live to be taken care of. President Obama feeds these people poison, giving them the idea that they are entitled to take from the wealthier, who have lived and worked in a democracy that understands that capitalism is the only truth that keeps a nation healthy and fed.

Now, the lie goes very deep, and President Obama has been cleverly trained in the Alinsky method, and it would be very important that every American knows what that method is. It is a socialistic, Marxist teaching, and with it, little by little, he rapes this nation, taking down our defenses, making new language for the Islamic extremists.

The world who looked up to us, as a symbol of hope and prosperity, now wonders …“What will become of the entire world if America is losing its power?”

The American people who understand exactly what is taking place have come together in the thousands, vowing to try to stay together as a unit of love and freedom, for all men and women, from all walks of life, shivering to think that this once great nation will be a third world country.

This will be the first president to ever weaken the United States of America. President Obama uses his aggression and arrogance for his own agenda against the will of the American people, when he should be using his will and aggression against our enemies. Every loving American for peace, and truth, and the security of our nation, must come out and join the tea parties in their states. The opposition will continue their tactics: they will lie and plant their own bullies amongst us. Everyone must pay close attention to who stands next to them. We can weed out the liars and agitators.

Let us all stay in God’s light.
Let no man put us under.
We can and we will prevail.
God bless us all!"

[Recursion]

97. I still don't see what's wrong with pork rinds

Zero carbs. Yummy.

[salinen]

108. It's the sodium!

sodium is a teabag plot to give us heart attacks.

[JHB]

98. We don't live in some weird fog of anti-Americanism...

[tavalon]

100. I agree with the list

That said, where's the popcorn?

[salinen]

109. popcorns o.k.

but if you use too much butter and salt, you might as well eat pork rinds.

[tavalon]

113. LOL

The really hilarious thing is I tried to use the popcorn smiley but I was on the IPad and it wouldn't let me.

[OKNancy]

105. wow... just the kind of thing I posted about

here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=310408&mesg_id=310578

Obviously some of the political points in the post are valid, things in the list such as trucks, movies, food, and vacation choices are the kinds of things that make liberals and DUers look like snobs and hypocrites.

[salinen]

111. I was going for laughs

mostly. As progressives, we see almost no victories for our causes. I think that's why ridicule is so prevalent here at du. It's a reaction to helplessness maybe. And I like it because it is the precursor to change/revolution. I'd like to see a much bigger group of lean and mean progressives. You'd think that the conservatives would be more relaxed, being that this country resembles their demands. But their hatred is more like an addiction.

My $.02

[newtothegame]

106. Disagree about TV not being on Fox. This is probably the best place on the net to come...

to get regular minute-by-minute feeds of everything said by Rush, Beck and Palin.

Sad but true.

[salinen]

112. But now

Rush, Beck, & Palin are a zillion times bigger because the guy I meet tomorrow will spout the same insane dogma.