i think we ought to recognize, at the time obama wanted dadt out of courts and into congress

[seabeyond]

many duers demanded we all fall into line that obama was homophobic and republican and never wanted dadt to end.

i am thrilled that our dems were able to follow thru and be successful on this vote. yea dems. yea nation. and yea the military who are ready to let this shit go.

[stray cat]

1. That is what the administration has said all along but it was drowned out by calls of traitor

[dkf]

3. Obama did this one right.

An executive order could have put a permanent repeal on the backburner.

[TheWraith]

9. An EO wouldn't even have been legal, actually.

Issuing an EO to prevent the enforcement of a statute law is illegal, akin to Bush ordering that the laws against torture be ignored or redefined. The ban on gays in the military was, after all, a law passed by congress, not a simple military policy or defense directive the way, say, segregation of the armed forces was.

[dkf]

10. Well then that too.

[MineralMan]

2. Rainbow people vs. brown people. That's the difference, I think.

I'm ecstatic that DADT was repealed. I'm not about the Dream act not making it.

[seabeyond]

4. my bad. and i am going to have to edit my post. because i was thinking dream as 911

issue. i was confused. yes. i can see why dadt would win adn dream not win, seeing it is mexican issue.

thanks

brain fart

gonna edit it out

[jberryhill]

5. And it is before the end of the year, but it won't matter

Because Obama is a homophobe who tried to stop this, yadda yadda yadda

A judicial resolution would have been the religious right's new fuel. They were born out of Roe v Wade.

[Tx4obama]

6. I've been supportive of Obama letting Congress do it. I knew they & he would get it done!

Obama said he'd get rid of DADT and now in a couple of hours it will be gone! :)

[seabeyond]

12. unfortunately.... people will ignore this, it appears. but yea. you are right. nt

[lamp_shade]

7. Absolutely. It had to be done this way. K&R

[TheKentuckian]

8. Hey, it got done so credit where it is due.

[Scurrilous]

11. K & R

:thumbsup:

[seabeyond]

13. .

a shameless kick, as a reminder

might even do a few more as it continues to drop

[Codeine]

14. People don't have the patience to see stuff done properly.

They want everything carried out by executive fiat, little realizing that things cannot be done that way, and when they can they'll simply be reversed by the next executive.

Nobody can call this abuse of power. There is no activist court argument here. It's just sweet, sweet law. :)

[seabeyond]

16. right on. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. I hope that those who were screaming and bitching, threatening not to vote

in 2012 now realize that Obama just might now what he's doing. There is always a rationale behind the action. I'm going to put my faith in the fact that Holder is competent and understands the legalese around the issue.

The post-DADT Lieberman-Udall-Collins-Gillibrand press conference explained everything.

The president had no force of law to stop DADT; it HAD to happen in the Congress.

[jberryhill]

21. They'll just find something else

[JackBeck]

17. Even though I never used that language, progressive frustration should never be dismissed.

I was steadfast in my support of this administration and their promise to overturn DADT this year.

Yeah, I started sweating during the lame duck, but I still held on to the promise that it would be overturned before the end of the year.

Why? Because I worked my ass off calling my supportive legislators to see who they could persuade others from across the aisle.

[SidDithers]

18. To their credit, many DU'ers who were most vocal...

have congratulated Obama, and admitted they were wrong.

Other prominent critics, however, are conspicuously silent.

Sid

[seabeyond]

20. hey sid, thanks for telling me that. i havent been in the other threads. and i never really kept

names in my head so i would not recognize who did what, when....

so i am really glad to hear, that people are saying, didnt think he would, yea, he did.

thanks.

[Mortos]

22. But the damage is already done based on their senseless and baseless criticism

of President Obama. The catcalls and insults hurled at him by the people who couldn't wait 2 years for this major accomplishment diminished the President in the eyes of the gullible and easily swayed. To them he is a "republican" and "corporatist" or simply a "homophobe."

It would have been nice to give the President the benefit of the doubt instead of incessantly attacking him and accusing him of being something he isn't.

[Number23]

19. Rec'd