Question: Would Gaddafi be welcome in Venezuela? Why or why not?

[Towlie]

[Bryn]

1. No he would not be welcome in any countries

They will turn him over to Libyans because he has already murdered too many people plus he killed soldiers who refused to fire on protesters by using mercenaries hired from other countries. This is a huge crime. He won't get out of it now.

[Very_Boring_Name]

2. Yes. Dictators always protect their own. Besides, Chavez and Gaddafi are good friends.

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[leftstreet]

4. I don't understand why Venezuelans can't elect better dictators

:eyes:

This is like the 3rd Chavez thread today.
Did he do a badness somewhere?




Reuters Pictures Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi speaks on state television in this February 22, 2011 image taken from video footage. Gaddafi appeared on state television on Tuesday and signalled his defiance over a mounting revolt against his 41-year rule.

[social_critic]

7. I think Chavez is losing popularity, so it's fashionable to bring it up

Chavez has left a gapin hole in his popularity by palling around with some pretty nasty characters, of which Kaddafi is just one. This means those of us who don't like Chavez use the opportunity to bash him a little bit. It's all done in good humour, of course.

So tell us, what do you think about Chavez' friend Noriega's support for Kaddafi as he uses his air force to murder hundreds of Lybians? Do you think we ought to start bashing Noriega as well?

[David__77]

5. He is welcome as head of state of Libya, which he is.

All else is conjectural at this point. We will see how things play out. There is a lot of psychological warfare being waged by Western intelligence agencies right now - that is for sure. Gaddafi is still in Libya, appearing on TV in front of his house, illegally bombed by Reagan in 1986. The leaders of Algeria, Nicaragua, Chad, and other countries have expressed solidarity with the Libyan leadership, and it appears that the security forces are successfully mobilizing and arming. There is simply no basis for "civil war" at this point. The killing of even 10,000 opposition forces would not mean civil war - this happened in Syria and elsewhere, but it mopped up quickly.

[social_critic]

6. My analysis shows Kaddafi is toast

There's no basis for civil war because the majority is opposed to Kaddafi. I think this should be called a popular revolt against a tyrant, who is receiving some support by other tyrants or would be tyrants. I am watching al Jazeera right now and the Kaddafi regime seems to be kaput - it's like a corpse trashing around. It's going to kill a lot of people as it trashes around, but it's gone.

Yesterday, al Jazeera reported the Lybian ulema council had declared jihad on Kaddafi and his tribe. Councils in other countries have been backing the call for jihad as well. This jihad has been called appropriately (it's a defensive jihad, therefore it can be called without a caliph's approval). Where does this take me? Mr Noriega in Nicaragua is going be facing a lot of Arab anger in the future for interfering in internal Arab affairs AND backing a group the overwhelming majority in the Arab street already considers an enemy which can be killed with full religious sanction.

So, my guess is that Chavez isn't about to let Kaddafi get into Venezuela, not even if Kaddafi tries to bribe him - evidently Chavez is short of money and a few Kaddafi billions will come in handy, but he can't afford to have the likes of Osama bin Laden putting him in the cross hairs right now.

[cali]

8. we don't know.

yes, they've been allies, but whether that extends to a welcome if Gaddafi flees Libya, we just don't know.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. Of Course: "Chavez: What Bolivar is to us, Gadafi is to Libya"

See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=479653&mesg_id=479653