Tea Party support correlates to religious affiliation, survey finds

[madinmaryland]

I really have to put this in the "no shit, Sherlock" category. These idiots are the same 25% dead-enders that supported * at the end of his admin.

The Tea Party hardly claims to be a religious movement - it mostly advocates for smaller government and lower taxes - but feelings about the movement correlate to affiliation with certain religious groups, according to new survey data from the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.

White evangelical Protestants are roughly five times more likely to agree with the Tea Party movement than to disagree with it, Pew found. American Jews, meanwhile, are nearly three times as likely to disagree with the movement than agree with it.

Tea Party supporters are "much more likely than registered voters as a whole to say that their religion is the most important factor in determining their opinions on ... social issues" like abortion and same-sex marriage, according to the Pew analysis.

"They draw disproportionate support from the ranks of white evangelical Protestants," the analysis said of the Tea Party.

Read more: http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/23/tea-party-support-correlates-to-religious-affiliation/?hpt=T2

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[NoPasaran]

2. In other news, scientists confirm: Fire HOT!

[Bake]

3. And water is wet ...

I'm shocked, I tells ya, SHOCKED!

Bake

[Kievan Rus]

9. And snow cold

[Lyric]

4. Noooo! I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!

:rofl:

[Chorophyll]

6. Oops. Great minds and all that. ;)

[Chorophyll]

5. I am shocked, shocked!

Still, it's nice to have some confirmation of what we always knew.

[Newest Reality]

7. As a cultural model

you can consider the impact and results of the belief system.

There is the ultimate CEO, and his representatives, in His company, which is the world. Everyone else is not worthy, sinful and bound to do the work of the Great CEO in the sky. Anyone who opposes that is evil, immoral and RIGHT OUT! His spokesperson is a family member who is revered and does PR for the Big CEO.

That whole hierarchical pyramid is inserted deeply into people's, (believers) minds. Patriarchal authority types play on this theme to promote the corporate agenda where we are all expected to believe what we are told and behave as we are expected to or we are declared anathema, or get sent to Hell, in various forms, etc. Punitive justice is justified and the more degrading and Draconian, the better. All inducements to conform are part of the system and holy, while heretics are dangerous and potentially bad influences to the faithful.

When you take a child, for instance, and present them with a problem or fault they didn't know they had, then you offer them the ONLY solution to that problem, (the scope of which involves eternal fire or joy for their essence or soul) is to believe what is being told to them and that those who define the problem hold the exclusive remedy, just how do you think that will impact the rest of their lives? Who will they believe and obey on face value if they are discouraged from thinking and asking questions or daring to not just believe? Were they old enough to discern these things upon indoctrination?

[Manifestor_of_Light]

10. Original sin has destroyed milions of lives and their hopes.

A made up doctrine based on a fairy tale. Crushes children, crushes adults, crushes everyone who takes it seriously. Substitutionary atonement is an unneeded solution to a nonexistent problem (original sin).

ABUSIVE AND SHAMEFUL. Read HEALING THE SHAME THAT BINDS YOU by John Bradshaw, Ph.D.

[siligut]

8. They get them with the knee-jerk god issues

And liberals are baby killing heathens.

[Pacifist Patriot]

11. You nailed it. Totally in the "no shit Sherlock" category.

I hope they didn't spend a lot of time trying to figure this out.

[DonCoquixote]

12. This is why

When people say nonsense like "well, we have more in common with the Tea party" I laugh, because we do not! Most tea party members want to bring back the days of Jaizzuzz, Guns, and people knowing their place.

[happyslug]

13. Some historians call the American Revolution the "Presbyterian Revolution"

The reason behind this if you look into the details of who back whom in the Revolution, the Presbyterians and Methodists were the most for the Revolution, the Quakers and Anglicans (Now Episcopal) church was most pro-King. Now, no one calls the American Revolution a religious revolution, but most Americans at that time were members of some church, not so much for the dogma, but it was the only social organization that existed at that time. It was where you went to talk to your neighbors, to interact with your neighbors, to gossip with your neighbors and to hear the latest news. The American Revolution was pre-Pulp papers, so the main writing material was Linen Paper. Linen was a lot cheaper then Parchment (The primary material to write on pre-1300s) but still expensive by modern standards.

Given the price of Paper, most middle class people only owned one book, the Family bible (Which differs post-1300 Western Society from pre-1300 Western Society, pre 1300 most villages only had one book, the village bible, again do to the expense of the book based on the cost of the paper the book was written on). The poor and working class often did not own any books and often could not read and write. Thus the only way to communicate to them was by verbal communications. The Church performed that function till the widespread adoption of pulp paper starting in the 1830s (Pulp paper was invented in 1801). The subsequent widespread adoption of Public Education was to teach people how to read the pulp newspapers of the time period. But this is all post-1830s, I am talking of the American Revolution.

During the American Revolution, Washington liked "Common Sense" and had his officers read it to the enlisted ranks while in formation. This is how most people were exposed to new ideas and books prior to the 1850s. You could have reading circles but most people ended up getting the news read to them from the Pulpit. Like today, your choice of our source for news also affects how you heard the news (Quakers and Anglicans tend to make the new more pro-King, Presbyterians, Congregations and Methodists tended to make it more pro-Revolution).

Thus religion was NOT the reason for the Revolution, but it was a factor in how it was supported and opposed since your religion determined how you heard the news of how the war was going.

Just a comment, that it is NOT the religion of the Tea partiers that are driving the Tea Party, but their Churches is guiding HOW the church members hear the news.

[madinmaryland]

15. I agree completely with your historical comments of religion. However, your last

comment did leave me scratching my head. The point of the survey, shows that the "tea-baggers" are basically the same people we referred to as the "dead-enders" and 23-percenters that still supported Bush.

No, the teabaggers are not driven by religion, but they do use their religion to explain their beliefs, bigotry, racism, homophobia, etc. And they look for churches that will feed those beliefs.

[Initech]

14. And water = wet.

[quaker bill]

16. +10

[BR_Parkway]

17. If only they'd taken it one step further and correlated racial attitudes

not that the results would be any less surprising to most of us here

[PA Democrat]

18. My wacko neighbors fit the profile and are teabaggers.

[krawhitham]

19. SHOCKER

not

[justiceischeap]

20. I like how this seems to be pitting the Jews against the Xstians

yet again... As Rodney King said, "Can't we all just get along?"

[TBF]

24. Nah, these are just the fundamentalists.

They hate my less extreme Methodist faith as much as they hate Judaism. And who knows, there may be orthodox Jews who agree with them.

[callous taoboy]

21. The * dead-ender baggers I work with are religious to the nth power.

[social_critic]

22. So is Osama bin Laden

I think it's possible to link extreme religiosity with intolerance and tendency towards violence. I don't want to offend anybody, but I have a hunch it works for all religions. But I'm agnostic, so it's easy for me to say it. I'm an equal opportunity anti-religion type, you may say.

[creon]

23. No surprise

The evangelical protestants are, for the most part, very deferential to authority.
They tend to believe in obedience, most especially to the clergy.