.Does this sound like Obama? I sure hope it's true.

[Cal33]

Obama Puts Public Option And Single Payer Back On The Table

www.consumerwatchdog.org/blog/obama-puts-public-option-and-s...

(THE ABOVE LINK DOESN'T WORK. PLEASE SEE REPLY #5 FOR THE CORRECT LINK THAT DOES WORK).

"At the National Governors Association, President Obama just threw his weight behind a bi-partisan effort in the US Senate to allow states to innovate with health reform, including adopting a public insurance system or single payer health care system by 2013 instead of 2017."

[Mojambo]

1. This is something Bernie Sanders has been pushing for.

[polichick]

12. Yes - Sanders is the real deal! nt

[Motown_Johnny]

2. your link doesn't work for me, and it sounds to good to be true

If this were accurate I would think everyone would be talking about it

[Cal33]

32. Hope you're able to get the link now. Just read Reply #5.

[madamesilverspurs]

3. link doesn't work...

[MineralMan]

4. The link is broken.

Sorry.

The one below does work.

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/blog/obama-puts-public-option-and-single-payer-back-table

[MineralMan]

5. Good link to this story, which is apparently true:

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/blog/obama-puts-public-option-and-single-payer-back-table

[Cal33]

9. Thanks. I'll see if I can get this into the message.

[groundloop]

6. I believe this is part of a "bipartisan" proposal to push up timetable for states to opt out

I'm not totally up on all the details, but there's an amendmant being pushed that will move up the timetable when states can opt out of parts of the affordable care act. To do that they must show that they can provide better care for their citizens that the federal affordable care act - this would include state run single payer. This would be great for progressive states, not so much so for those of us stuck in red states.

[Cal33]

10. Could this help some red states to vote blue in the future, especially

if the single payer system goes through, and the people finally begin
to see how the health insurance companies have been lying to and
robbing us for all those years?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. That's pretty much it in a nutshell from what I saw yesterday

In the short term it would open the door for progressive states to implement single payer systems. So long as they meet the National requirements of coverage. This is actually not a bad idea overall. Sure, we in red states won't get the whole package right away. However, if other states set an example of working, effective single payer systems, it's going to be hard to convince voters in other states that it's not a good thing.

[Cal33]

21. When the red states see how well the blue states are doing with

the single payer system, some of the red-state people will begin to see
how the health care insurance companies have been lying to and robbing
the American people all these decades. They might very well vote liberal
the next time. But, it will take years before this happens. It's still
some time in the future.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

26. I agree.

It's good to see the possibility of moving the date up. The sooner states can implement this the better for everyone. Even those of us in states that are hostile to the concept of single payer.

[BrklynLiberal]

7. Not getting my hopes up until I hear it directly from the source....live.

[Cal33]

11. Nobody said it's a push-over. The Repubs. are going to fight like hell against it, of course.

[JuniperLea]

16. It was already in the bill...

Too bad you missed it... it was discussed here at great length.

I hope states do indeed get to do this sooner than the original 2017 date.

I really, most sincerely, do not get how so many people either never got this, never understood the bill, or have forgotten. Threads upon threads upon threads for months and months this was discussed.

Kinda scary.

[Cal33]

24. This is a huge forum. I believe very few people, if any, read

all the threads. There just isn't enough time. Also, I pick and choose
what news to read -- and like most people, I can't help but miss out a lot
in the process

[JuniperLea]

29. That's my perspective too, as well as my point...

You didn't need to click on very many threads back in the HCR screamfest days to get this particular bit of information, ad nauseum.

[ClarkUSA]

8. Yes, it sounds like the Chess Master. And it's true. HCR was always meant to open the barn door.

It was never meant to be the be all and end all. Now, it's up to us. Start organizing.

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/28/951074/-Obama-Puts-Public-Option-and-Single-Payer-Back-on-the-Table

[Cal33]

30. Yes, the liberals will have to start organizing and working hard, and not

be too lackadaisical.

I have always been aware of how hard-working and persistent the conservatives
have always been. That's how they have been so successful -- in spite of the
fact that they have to invent lies non-stop, in order to fool the public about
everything that they do.

Liberals have only to tell the truth. Their job is much easier. But liberals
apparently don't like to work hard. And they are neither persistent nor
organized -- that's for sure! Example: The discredited electronic voting machines
are still around. It's only been 10 years since Al Gore. Some one-third of the
states are still using them, even today -- including some blue states.

If the situation had been reversed, you can bet your bottom dollar that the
conservatives would have raised a big stink to high heaven from DAY ONE. They
wouldn't have allowed the liberals to get away with anything.

I feel that the conservatives have never yet won a national election honestly -- if
the liberals had not allowed them to get away with it.

Come on Liberals. Get organized. And be hard-working, PERSISTENTLY! We've got a
lot to learn from the conservatives!

[leeroysphitz]

14. .

[JuniperLea]

15. Some would rather hate than learn... eom

[displacedvermoter]

18. You are a little defensive, it seems.

[JuniperLea]

27. Nope, just weary of bullshit... eom

[leeroysphitz]

19. We'll find out down the road. n/t

[JuniperLea]

28. Pft... bullshit today will still be bullshit down the road... eom

[Shagbark Hickory]

17. None of the links are working for me but good grief. Quit dangling cheese in our faces.

These stories are like teasing a dog.
Unrec.

[intaglio]

22. It's ok, I covered your unrec

I rarely rec or unrec but your dog-in-a-manger attitude got the juices flowing.

[Shagbark Hickory]

25. OK get your hopes up for the public option.

Just don't go complaining about Captain Compromise flip flopping on it later.

[SidDithers]

20. It's funny how the same speech was yesterdy categorized as...

Obama caving to the States on Health Care.

Sid

[dionysus]

23. there's a way to spin every outcome, not matter what it is, to be some kind of "cave"

it means you can get your hate on no matter what happens!

[Cal33]

31. I guess what's important is the result. This will take time. So, we'll

have to wait and see.