Beat it - loser!!

[CLANG]

:sarcasm:

[rfranklin]

1. If only he had chosen Creationism science...

He could have been a highly paid Republican think tank commentator.

[freshwest]

4. I want to get the Republican party small enough to drown it in a bathtub.

Very good signature

[loudsue]

13. I never noticed it, either!

It is a good sig line, isn't it?

[FiveGoodMen]

40. OH! OH! *waves hand frantically*

When it gets there I'll help drown it.

[Erose999]

56. Or climate change denial. He could probably be an "expert commentator" on Faux News

[yellowcanine]

2. Six papers isn't necessarily so great for three postdocs. With no teaching responsibilities, in

most fields one would expect more.

[gateley]

5. Whoa. Tough crowd. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

51. Welcome to academia.

Comes with the territory.

[GoCubsGo]

54. This guy epitomizes why I never went on for the PhD.

Three post docs is the norm, and even if you do land a job, you have to practically kill yourself in order to get tenure. When I was a Masters student, we had a PhD student who was the best of the best. I saw what it took for HIM to get post docs and eventually a permanent job. Thanks, but no thanks. Don't like teaching anyway.

[JuniperLea]

7. Every party needs a pooper that's why we invited you...

:eyes:

[yellowcanine]

12. Just calling it as I see it. Sorry. Furthermore, most postdocs are working on someone else's idea,

not their own. Three successive postdocs suggests the possibility a lack of independent thinking - not a desirable trait in the academic world.

[no limit]

14. Yeah, obviously the guy is such a fucking loser

[yellowcanine]

16. Not the conclusion I would draw. Just that he is not using his talents effectively - or that he has

been getting really lousy advice - or that he is in a deep state of denial about his opportunities and refuses to consider opportunities which are "beneath him" - perhaps all three - or maybe this is basically a "stunt" - which is what I really suspect.

[no limit]

17. Wow, you sure are able to read minds from a simple picture

amazing powers you have there.

[yellowcanine]

18. Yeah isn't it great?

[blueamy66]

52. He looks young.

He can probably move back in with his parents.

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[yellowcanine]

41. So according to you an "elitist" is someone offering an observation on academic standards.

I plead "guilty" then. I would just point out that I don't make the rules. I am the messenger here. I do believe that everything I said is absolutely true about academic standards based on my personal experience serving on appointment and tenure committees for the past 16 years. If that makes me an "elitist", so be it.

[Name removed]

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[DainBramaged]

60. I stand by what was said.

Critiquing a picture that for all intensive purposes is meant simply as humor to emphasize the current job situation is sad.

[uppityperson]

61. You make me so proud to be a DUer.

[H2O Man]

10. gross

[Missy Vixen]

21. Why don't you post your CV here, and we'll take a look?

Someone so obviously gifted won't mind sharing with the rest of us.

:eyes:

[JuniperLea]

29. Heh!

:thumbsup:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

24. I agree the profile is a little odd, but without more details, its hard to say

What field is he and where matters a great deal. Also be interesting to know if it is real.

[mdmc]

37. no wonder he is down and out..

:)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. Mumsy and Dadsy won't be pleased.

:sarcasm:

[gateley]

6. If he can afford to get a Ph.D. he can afford to get a job! Or something.

Even this white, highly educated guy won't move the Republicans. Not until it happens to them personally.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. If it's real.

:tinfoilhat:

[gateley]

11. Yeah, who knows? But I'm sure if HE isn't there are some with his background

who are reduced to that, don't you think?

[leveymg]

9. If there were any justice, that would be Wall St & his field would be Economics and Finance.

But, nah. He's probably just an English Major.

[pacalo]

15. Maybe he could outsource himself overseas. India has one of the world's worst

traffic situations ever (learned about it on tv). Car jams in face-offs by angry stubborn drivers; lax, anything-goes traffic laws; fatalities every 4 minutes...

This doctor could find lots of work in India's emergency rooms; wouldn't know about the pay, though.

This third-world country with a third-world mentality is getting a big chunk of our jobs. I wonder how many of those workers didn't show up at those American companies due to having been in a traffic accident. And if there's another lesson to be learned from Bhopal, it's that workers in India are careless & third-rate.

[tblue37]

50. A PhD is NOT a medical doctor! nt

[Jester Messiah]

19. That's _Doctor_ Loser, if you please!

It's sad, but he might have to grab a position as a greeter or register jockey. That's about all that's left anymore.

[treestar]

20. I don't believe it

The unemployment rate for professionals never went up. The reason it is high is blue collar and sales.

[Cali_Democrat]

26. Bullshit.....My friend is a lawyer that specializes in tax law

His company specialized in the tax implications of mergers and acquisitions between businesses. He went to a top flight college and law school.

He's been out of work for almost 2 years now since the economic downturn because there haven't been a whole lot of mergers and acquisitions between businesses in this economic downturn.

Many highly skilled professions have been hit hard by the great recession.

[treestar]

32. It's not that no individual is out of work

There's still the 5% - but look at the statistics:

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm


Still, that's hard to believe, for a lawyer in that field, to ever be unemployed. And a lawyer could always do another area of the law or work for himself.

[JoePhilly]

27. Yea ... I want more info ....

I have a Masters and a PhD, and in addition to being able to use those credentials to claim that I am an "expert" in my field, what I tend to tell people is that those degrees tell you that I am dedicated, and that I can learn absolutely anything.

You can not get those degrees without the ability to do serious and extended research on a complex problem spaces, understand those, and then be able to describe the space effectively to those who know nothing about it.

You generally have to be able to speak to groups of 5-10 people, and often to larger groups, and take direct questions, engage debate, and win.

The line that catches my eye ... "6 post docs" ... sounds like a possible instance of "perpetual student syndrome". But I could be wrong.

The thing is, his little sign doesn't say, "Led a team of over 250 people" or "Generated 50 million in profit in my last position" ...

There has to be more to this.

[treestar]

34. Good point. With post docs, in supposedly 3 different fields

How could he be unemployable?

And if he really was published that many times, doesn't that put him at the top of those fields.

If it's that bad, he surely could get something in another country - with all of those qualifications, and he still looks young.

[JoePhilly]

42. I noticed his youthfulness as well ....

I had a Masters and a PhD before I was 25. Which of course means I am Brilliant.

:sarcasm:

He doesn't look much older than that.

I have known some very, very smart people who I would never hire because they were terrible with other people. They were too smart for their own good, if you follow me. They used their degrees as defacto argument killers. I am a PhD, therefore, I must be right.

Like I said, before ... I'd take him seriously if I had some additional info.

[yellowcanine]

43. A post doc is a research appointment, not a degree. They could all be in the same field.

And 6 pubs is not that great over three post doc appointments. Two a year is minimum at best for someone with a split teaching/research appointment in many university departments. Three post docs could be as long as 6 years or more of 100% research in established programs where publications are churned out rapidly - a post doc usually means someone else has secured a large grant and has a well equipped lab, research technicians, and graduate students. The post doc researcher should be able to turn out 3-4 pubs per year without breaking a sweat. Multiple post docs is sometimes a red flag for academic departments when they are hiring - it can mean a researcher who cannot focus on one area and make it his own - a must to be successful in academics.

[treestar]

58. It would be interesting to know what field they were in

A lot would depend on that. If it is something that could only involve teaching at a university vs. something with application.

[MadHound]

28. Apparently you aren't paying attention

I know several professions that have been hard hit, with thousands and thousands of professionals out of a job.

This recession is hitting everybody hard.

[treestar]

33. ...

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm

[Lorien]

49. I know far too many with Masters and Ph.D's who are out of work

ALL of the bottom 98% are fucked these days.

[Lorien]

48. I'm not surprised that you don't believe it. nt

[lpbk2713]

22. He could add another line ...

BushCo Mission Accomplished


:eyes:

[lame54]

23. Is that Paul Rudd?

[Pacifist Patriot]

55. LOL! My very thought.

[Selatius]

25. Good luck paying off the student loans. nt

[damntexdem]

30. How long since the PhD was received? Three post docs suggests a few years.

Only 6 papers may not be sufficient given the time to complete 3 post docs.

;-)

[yellowcanine]

45. Particularly since one would expect at least one pub from the master's thesis and two or more

from the Ph.D. dissertation. That leaves only one per post doc - pretty paltry, to say the least.

[lumberjack_jeff]

31. So?

Is his unemployment somehow more tragic than anyone else's?

Dude, we all work for food.

[sylvi]

36. Spoof photo from 2006

Meant as a commentary on the glut of postdocs.

http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/24607/

http://www.the-scientist.com/2006/9/1/42/1/

[elias7]

39. Knew it smelled funny

[SoCalDem]

38. In a $7.50 hr US, he will be able to fiind a "job"

and if he likes cheap food & 4 roommates, he'll be fine

:sarcasm:------->just in case there are people here who didn't "get it":rofl:

[Erose999]

57. At $7.50/hr, the default on his student loans would probably add more to the deficit than itd cost

the gov't to put him up in some sort of teaching job. lol

[mrs_p]

46. all sarcasm aside

this could actually be my predicament in a few years (though, i agree with some of the statements above that 6 pubs from so much research seems paltry).

still..... :scared:

[BOG PERSON]

47. what kind of world is this where an overeducated white male can't get a job

it's not a world i want to live in.

[SpiralHawk]

53. "Pull yourself up by your own damn Bruno Magli loafer tassles." - Republicon 'Elites'

[apex nerd]

59. I blame his use of Comic Sans font

...very unprofessional.