"Administration officials said they saw the events (protests) beyond Washington as distractions ..."

[Better Believe It]

Less Drama in White House After Staff Changes
BY JACKIE CALMES
March 3, 2011

.... the White House mostly has sought to stay out of the fray in Madison, Wis., and other state capitals where Republican governors are battling public employee unions and Democratic lawmakers over collective bargaining rights. When West Wing officials discovered that the Democratic National Committee had mobilized Mr. Obama’s national network to support the protests, they angrily reined in the staff at the party headquarters.

Administration officials said they saw the events beyond Washington as distractions from the optimistic “win the future” message that Mr. Obama introduced in his State of the Union address, in which he exhorted the country to increase spending for some programs even as it cuts others so that America can “out-innovate and out-educate” its global rivals.

Read the full article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/04/us/politics/04staff.html?_r=3

[ClarkUSA]

1. "...as distractions" to the SOTU. 6 day old news. It's called "message control". What of it?

I've read complaints about the Obama administration's alleged problems with "message control".

Now, when we have evidence of the contrary, suddenly it's an outrage? :eyes:

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[ClarkUSA]

11. Wrong. 3/8/11: "SEIU Chief: Obama ‘Has Stepped Up’ in State Labor Fights" (video & transcript)

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=624981&mesg_id=624981

[walldude]

17. Really? Because that seems to be in direct contradiction

to this statement from the article:
When West Wing officials discovered that the Democratic National Committee had mobilized Mr. Obama’s national network to support the protests, they angrily reined in the staff at the party headquarters.

So you are saying on one hand that the administration has stepped up the fight and on the other they reigned in anyone at the DNC who supported the labor protests?

Yeah that's what I call message control. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[ClarkUSA]

19. Did you read the entire article?

Unnamed sources said this was allegedly done prior to the SOTU, as the OP's 6 day old news story states.

Why are you ignoring the SEIU leader's words? He sure as hell knows what he's talking about, doncha think? :sarcasm:

[walldude]

35. I love how when you talk about the OP it's all

unnamed sourced and allegedly, but when you talk about the SEIU it's all for sure absolutely and positively. This is from the link ProSense posted....

“Our members in Wisconsin and Ohio were incredibly proud when the president spoke out about the real agenda in Wisconsin and Ohio being about eliminating workers' voice and busting unions,” SEIU President Mary Kay Henry told us on ABC’s “Top Line” today.

“And that was a huge step forward. We then saw the Secretary of Labor issue a statement and then an op-ed and then do a speech that said union is in her family -- that we have to have a way to solve problems at the collective bargaining table.”

“So we think the administration has stepped up in this moment. And that it's up to us, the people all across this country, to hold our government accountable and get the private sector to reinvest in America.”

Quote "WE THINK THE ADMINISTRATION HAS STEPPED UP". WE THINK. WE THINK.. Not "They Have".

I get tired of this. Really. If you want to support a position make sure you have your facts straight instead of using flippant language and slight of hand to make your fantasies reality.

The fact is you claimed that the SEIU said that the Administration Stepped Up, when in fact they said "WE THINK THEY STEPPED UP". There is a huge difference between the two.

[ClarkUSA]

44. Splitting hairs doesn't change the fact that the leader of SEIU praised the President.

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[roguevalley]

24. Found his shoes then?

[ClarkUSA]

26. Funny how not one labor leader has complained about President Obama. Quite the opposite.

I guess you know better than they do.

[whathehell]

38. Don't think they don't complain in private...They just don't want a repuke to take his place in '12.

[ClarkUSA]

56. LOL! Provide proof of your claim.

[whathehell]

111. LOL yourself...I don't have to, .it's common freaking sense. n/t

[roguevalley]

120. what people say in public is a helluva lot different than what they

mean in private. being a union official for most of my working life I can attest to that. but if you want to read on the surface and miss the real meaning of things have at it. I wish I could be happy with the bright and shiny and not notice I'm knee deep in shit but I can't. Good luck with that.

[somone]

112. The shoes are only for decorative purposes

[Mojorabbit]

31. Wow, I am amazed at your statement. nt

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[lldu]

2. Win the Future? Don't you have to win the states before you

can win the future?

Sheesh!!!

[ClarkUSA]

5. Every SOTU has a theme. "Win The Future" was this year's SOTU theme.

He talked about getting ahead of the curve when it came to America's edge on being masters of 21st c. technology, so to speak.

Read the transcript.

[ArcticFox]

20. What a sad statement - SOTU is just like Senior Prom

It has a theme. At least with the prom, they don't try to carry that theme through the entire next school year.

Please tell me Obama's not acting out some fantasy of being the most popular kid in high school.

[ClarkUSA]

25. If you ever become President, you can change that American tradition.

[ArcticFox]

75. Fat chance of that

I'm not sell-out material.

[whathehell]

34. Yes...."Do not ruin the prom for the homecoming king"!

It's beyond ridiculous.

[ArcticFox]

73. Actually, he's acting more like the queen

How many guys really get so sentimental?

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[MedleyMisty]

58. That is the most awesome post I have ever read on DU

You win the internet.

[scarletwoman]

62. Awesome post!

"...an administration that only rolls out the fighting words when reality steps on its PR campaign with muddy, uncouth feet."

Brilliant! :applause:

sw

[jannyk]

64. Wow, Awesome!!!!

:yourock:

[Autumn]

74. I tip my hat to you

One hell of a post :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :applause:

[ClarkUSA]

77. Hate to tell you, but the outdated story the OP refers to is all about the SOTU via its "tagline".

I was trying to explain that, when you jumped in with your rant.

<< Meanwhile, while President Obama is talking about “winning the future” and “reaching out” and “searching for common ground” and all the rest of that happy horseshit, GOP state governments in Michigan, Indiana, Tennessee, Ohio and Wisconsin are going after fundamental worker rights in pretty much the last place worker rights remain and are vigorously defended – public sector unions.

And you know what? The people who’ve been surrounding the capitol in Madison, and trying to do the same in Columbus and Indianapolis and elsewhere don’t care about “winning the future”. They don’t care about talking points, they don’t care about “reaching out” and “consensus”. What they care about is whether they’re going to still have jobs in a year. What they care about is whether they’re still going to be represented by unions, or whether their students this time next year will be taught by FTA trainees. They care about whether they’ll be replaced by privatized prison guards, or minimum wage firefighters.

They don’t have time to read Politico or The Atlantic or watch talking head shows on Sunday morning. They don’t have time to follow breathless analysis of all the ins and outs of the policy sausage machine and they don’t care about the politesse of politics. They can, however, ask what the president is doing at this moment of crisis. >>

Don't blame President Obama for the FUBARs in states that were only made possible by the idiots who voted in Teabaggers into the control. WTF do you expect him to do about it now? Since when does a President step into legal state affairs mandated by the results of an election? He doesn't have a magic wand that negates the actions of a duly elected governor and legislature.

<< He’s praising Jeb Bush at a public appearance in Florida as an education “reformer when all Jeb ever wanted to do was gut public education like a giant sturgeon filled with the sweet, sweet caviar of public tax dollars so that he and his brother can stick in their snouts and guzzle all they can hold and then puke up all they can’t. >>

Yeah, and on the same day Howard Dean praised Boehner as "a good Speaker". Jeb was there as a prop to support Pres. Obama's push for an 11% increase in education funding, period. Both Pres. Obama and Howard Dean use words as a strategic tool. Only the politically savvy get it.

<< He’s stepping up to the place with ringing denunciations of GOP governors as labor rights are crushed in state after state. How ringing? Glad you asked: “I don’t think it does anybody any good when public employees are denigrated or vilified or their rights are infringed upon.” Oooh, take that Scott Walker! Stings, huh?!?!? >>

Again, WTF do you expect any sitting President to do in this situation? The people of WI elected Walker and the Republicans in the state legislature and nothing they are doing is against the law. Why are you blaming President Obama at all???

<< So, the president of the SEIU said good things about this administration? >>

Yup, and he knows a helluva more than anyone here about what he's talking about.

[mike_c]

116. spin spin spin....

Don't you ever get dizzy from all that spinning?

[Catherina]

80. Please promise you won't hate me but

you really need to see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJjgkS2YkK8

[Better Believe It]

85. You didn't pull any punches. It tells the truth. Well written. Thanks.

[Oilwellian]

98. That was awesome

Best rant of the day.

[inna]

108. And... deleted why???

this totally sucks.

[girl gone mad]

109. I hope someone saved it.

:(

[tridim]

3. No, events (which include protests, revolutions, wars, stupid GOP politics, etc, etc)

At least you didn't alter the date this time. Congratulations.

[WingDinger]

4. That's Obama's problem. He thinks you can train Repubs with affirmation only.

Forgetting the stick.

[ClarkUSA]

10. You're wrong. Here's proof --->

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Obama+criticizes+Republicans&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[kenny blankenship]

45. More like "Why fight 'em when you can join 'em?"

Not really his problem though. It's his meal ticket and our problem.

[ClarkUSA]

92. Since when have Republicans joined any legislation that Pres. Obama has pushed for?

Here's what he's done in the past two years. Check the votes and let me know how many times Republicans joined Pres. Obama and the majority of Democrats in voting through any of the following:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=596086&mesg_id=599959

[inna]

100. bingo

[Tx4obama]

6. Since they didn't say who the admin officials are - I call the article BS. n/t

[Better Believe It]

15. Right. Sure. Of course. It was all made up! Thanks for the info!

:sarcasm:

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[ClarkUSA]

14. The WH is clueless to want message control just prior to a SOTU?

Yeah, how dare they???!! :sarcasm:

[coalition_unwilling]

9. There'll be pie in the sky, when we die by and by. Fuck win the future. I

want to win the present and smash the fascists.

[speltwon]

18. I want to bestride them like a colossus of yore! nt

[madfloridian]

12. From The Nation March 3 by Ari Berman.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/158999/white-house-odds-obama-supporters-over-wisconsin-protests

"As Democrats and labor unions fought Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker’s attempt to take away worker rights, the Democratic National Committee and the post-election arm of the Obama campaign, Organizing for America, mobilized Obama’s grassroots network in support of the protests in Madison.

OfA Wisconsin's field efforts include filling buses and building turnout for the rallies this week in Madison, organizing 15 rapid response phone banks urging supporters to call their state legislators, and working on planning and producing rallies, a Democratic Party official in Washington said.

It was a decisive moment of action from a group that has often been criticized as too passive and ineffective during critical legislative fights."

"Republicans leaders, such as John Boehner, quickly attacked the DNC and accused the White House of orchestrating the protests in Madison, which was patently untrue. “I urge the president to order the DNC to suspend these tactics.” Under fire from the GOP, the DNC quickly backed away from its active stance, saying that its role in the protests had been “exaggerated,” according to DNC spokesman Hari Sevugan."

[gratuitous]

16. Mmmmm, creamy bipartisan-y goodness!

After all the olive branch extensions, reaches across the aisle, self-negotiations, and compromises without strings, the Obama White House gets treated like this by the Republican leadership. That's some gratitude for ya! I guess the only thing to do is roll over some more? How dare the DNC act like an opposition party to the Republicans? Who in the hell do they think they are? I'm glad the Republicans were able to snap them back in line like that.

[Better Believe It]

21. So the White House caved in to John Boehner's demand. Nothing new.

Sure don't want to get right-wing Republicans upset with the President.

[ClarkUSA]

30. There's zero proof of Ari Berman's media whore "gotcha" spin.

It's almost as bad as the six day old news story you dug up that has only unnamed sources...

[ClarkUSA]

27. Another 6 day old story? Ari Berman's spin has zero proof to back him up.

He's reaching. It's a strategic move to deny what Boehner said. Why take the focus away from WI protesters?

[madfloridian]

57. Kick

[county worker]

13. Now I know why the DNC only talked to me about Obama when they called

two days ago. I wanted to hear what they were doing for the protests. All they wanted to talk about was Obama so I told them that he disappointed me and why and then did not give a donation.

[BlueIris]

29. It's going to be a long time before I will give actual $ to any Democrat again.

Learned my lesson in 2004, thanks. 2008 was just a nasty reminder.

[ClarkUSA]

33. I'm sure the Koch Brothers will be delighted to hear it. Citizens United will prevail!

[county worker]

51. Well you can make up for my not paying donations if it bothers you so much.

[ClarkUSA]

60. The Koch Brothers are delighted you too have decided not to donate to Democrats in an election year.

[readmoreoften]

67. Forget Obama. He's useless. Donate to the ActBlue recall.

[Starry Messenger]

22. k&r

[highplainsdem]

23. Oh, that'll play well in Wisconsin, Ohio, and all the other states where union members

are fighting desperately to preserve their collective bargaining rights.

:sarcasm:

[ClarkUSA]

39. LAT:"Obama, speaking out on Wisconsin labor standoff, says public employees should not lose rights"

Link: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-wisconsin-unions-20110228,0,5323610,print.story

Considering no one is complaining in any of the states you mentioned, I don't think anybody there gives a shit about this 6 day old cherrypicked quote from unnamed sources, but they and labor eladers do care about what Pres. Obama publicly said at the National Governor's WH conference.

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[whathehell]

36. Of course!....You didn't think they cared about us, did you?

The message appears to be "The President has his Own Agenda, so PLEASE do not distract him with your petty concerns"!

[slay]

40. That is indeed

what it looks like to me. I just really hoped for more with Obama - he could have been the next JFK - but he' soooo not. Carter might not have been the best - and he was shut down at ever turn by the rich and powerful - but he at least CARED about THE PEOPLE and let us know it!

[whathehell]

110. Yes, it looks like that to me...Some here continue to be "true believers" though, lol.

[ClarkUSA]

42. Yeah, that's why President Obama issued a veto threat today against a GOP initiative.

Link: http://www.dallasnews.com/business/headlines/20110308-obama-issues-rare-veto-threat-aimed-at-hensarling-sponsored-bill.ece

[ClarkUSA]

41. You're conflating what was never said by the WH.

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[slay]

121. How will we ever know

since you had my post deleted? maybe next time you should not alert on posts you are replying to. just a suggestion.

[pacalo]

32. The working class doesn't live in a bubble like the WH does. Real life isn't Fantasyland.

Good grief, it's worse than I thought it was. I wanted to give Obama the benefit of the doubt; that he was staying out of the situation because he had the welfare of the workers in mind. I thought he wanted this to remain a grassroots movement with honest-to-goodness heart that would grow & grow to an eventual victory for the workers across the nation.

Truth is, I see now, he jumped the shark beginning with the catfood commission.

Obama wasn't my first choice for president. As a senator I recognized that he seemed to be a DINO, eager to please. Turns out my instincts were right.

A distraction from his "feel good" message.. That's very telling. And, his talking head pundits were right; we have nowhere else to go.

[golddigger]

37. Millions of old, new, independent and former republican voters are now a distraction?

This is the most clueless democratic administration I have ever seen.

[Bonhomme Richard]

47. I give up. It's time to come up with another plan. n/t

[slay]

48. So Obama voters (myself included)- Fighting for your rights is seen as "a distraction" by this admin

Yes damnit i am going to repost this. I know who got it deleted and he will not be mentioned this time.

I wish I still had the paragraphs I had written before - or mods would actually allow people to change things like was promised would be the case before a post being flat out deleted but whatever - if that's the way some people here like to play, i'll just keep posting anyways.

I feel betrayed by Obama in so many ways - this is just the latest. EOM.

[readmoreoften]

63. +1

[ClarkUSA]

83. Um, no. You're conflating again. The WH never said that.

[Modern_Matthew]

50. Less buzzwords and slogans, more progress. There's no substance to this administration. nt

[Better Believe It]

53. Winning the future. That was a stupid title for the Newt Gingrich book and

the slogan doesn't inspire me when uttered by President Obama.

[readmoreoften]

65. There never was. He was a marketing campaign.

[ClarkUSA]

82. There's no substance to your rhetoric and I can prove it with FACTS -->

Here's the substance:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=621787&mesg_id=621787

Facts are stubborn things, aren't they? :D

[eilen]

54. I heard about this.

Apparently the DNC/OFA was told to step away from the recall effort in Wisconsin. I didn't post it as an OP as I didn't have any good links. I heard about on Ed and saw it somewhere else but I felt it could easliy be a rumor and while I want to puke every time I think about Obama's budget and his recent actions, I didn't think it would be fair.

[Rex]

55. Okay, I'm not going to even say what I am thinking.

I'm going to try and not be so 'piss and vinegar' when it come to Obama...I usually focus all that on REPUKES and he is NOT a part of the GOP. Yes I am disappointed, but we have bigger fish to fry than our parties leader right now.

[Liquorice]

59. What a disappointment. It's like we're all alone in this thing. It seems like Obama

just doesn't care at all. I really hate the way things are turning out.

[ClarkUSA]

61. It's a "disappointment" that the WH wanted message control prior to the SOTU?

Gotcha. Well, the Republicans got their way in WI and OH. In WI, union households gave Walker the margin of victory over his Democratic opponent, according to PPP polls. They learned a lesson the hard way. They have a chance to rectify their FUBAR with a recall in a year's time.

Don't blame Obama. Blame the voters who decided to hand over their state governments to Republicans. He cannot wave a magic wand and change the state governments and how they make laws.

[Liquorice]

72. I disagree with Obama's inaction on this issue, as is my right. nt

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[Denzil_DC]

70. Maybe ask yourself who benefits from spreading this meme right now

Note that the meme in this--and a few other very similar--OPs has spread to quite a number of threads on DU today where it's being cited as gospel that Obama made this (unattributed) statement.

And stuff that "apologist" rap. If this is "war" as so many are shouting here tonight, if you can't identify the immediate enemies, you're really lost.

[Better Believe It]

91. "if you can't identify the immediate enemies, you're really lost." That's true.

Is there any chance that President Obama might identify them?

After all, progressives haven't had any difficulty identifying the right-wing Republican politicians and Wall Street.

[Bobbie Jo]

68. Unrecing "revised" version as well.

Keep plugging away! :thumbsup:

[Denzil_DC]

71. Yup, it's deja vu all over again all over again! n/t

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[ClarkUSA]

78. Pres. Obama is not to blame for the FUBAR in WI that voters there enabled with the last election.

Since when is President Obama to blame for the legal actions of a duly elected governor and state legislature? According to a recent PPP poll, the only reason Walker won was because union households gave him the margin of victory over his Democratic opponent! Well, they sure as hell learned a lesson, eh? Next year, they have a chance to fix their mistake with a recall. If it's successful, then WI Democrats have a chance to rectify what happened today.

[gkhouston]

87. Oh, it's a "blame the voters" day. I suppose that means tomorrow will be a

"blame the nonvoters" day. Since Walker and the other Republicans didn't campaign on union-busting and completely wrecking the state to hell and gone so they could privatize everything, I don't see that blaming either party is appropriate--nor am I sure that everything that Walker et al have done is legal.

President Obama didn't create this mess, but the White House has been dithering on the sidelines while the situation has grown crazier by the minute. A goodly chunk of people now realize that what's happening in Wisconsin isn't a local issue or a budget issue, or even a union issue. It's about corporatism and pandering to the rich to the detriment of everyone else. This can and should be a red meat issue for Democrats, yet the President is nearly silent. That silence could be costly for all of us.

[ClarkUSA]

93. No, it's called a fact. Pres. Obama is not to blame for voters' stupid choices last November.

[gkhouston]

102. It's called a straw man, actually. I haven't blamed him for last November's election.

He's not responsible for Walker's election any more than he's responsible for the decades that corporations have been increasing their profits and their stranglehold on our economy. But that doesn't mean he can remain detached from what's happening now without consequence. Our party has traditionally been pro-union and represented the middle class. If the White House says little or nothing while Wisconsin destroys their state and sells it to the Koch brothers, it's not going to matter who Obama endorsed in Wisconsin in 2010. He would effectively be endorsing Walker in 2011.

[ClarkUSA]

105. Convenient of you to say so now that your original comment has gone poof!

Your further rhetorical contortions don't interest me. I've made my point.

[gkhouston]

107. Apparently, your memory and logic are evenly matched. n/t

[drokhole]

81. You never know, we could have "won" the future by 2012

You're right, but "Win the future" is worse than a PR campaign. As I put it in my post: "winning the future" sounds like sophomoric, middle-management, bullshit corporate jargon in the first place - and it's a giant fucking embarrassment that it's what currently defines our country.

[ClarkUSA]

84. Did you even bother to listen to the SOTU? I somehow doubt it.

[gkhouston]

89. "win the future" always makes me think "because we're losing the present".

"Why yes, we haven't had a winning football season in 47 years, but next year, we're going to kick ass!"

[drokhole]

79. Yeah, because turning a blind eye is super "optimistic"

Obama and his entire administration are delusional. First off, they seriously need to cut this jingoistic, "winning the future" shit, yesterday (which, I guess would make it "correcting the past"). I'm so god damn sick of this nationalistic, statist, "us vs. them" mentality. WE ARE A GLOBAL RACE! How about we focus on cooperation, for once?! Advantaging all, without disadvantaging any. Why in the blue fuck do we need to "win the future"? What "future" is there to win?! Are we seriously, as a country, that egotistical that we need to retain dominance of the rest of the world? Fuck. This addiction to competition is detrimental to humanity as a whole.

Secondly, as many have pointed out, "winning the future" sounds like sophomoric, middle-management, bullshit corporate jargon in the first place - and it's a giant fucking embarrassment that it's what currently defines our country.



"We could follow traditional mammalian politics, in which one nation would try to dominate the others, which we now call a zero-sum-game. Or, we could choose a new synergistic path, a non-zero-sum-game, in which all Terrans cooperate to 'advantage all withou disadvantaging any.'" - Robert Anton Wilson


Everything "winning the future" represents, especially "out-innovating" and "out-educating," is a zero-sum-game. How about this idea instead - "all-innovate" and "all-educate"

[ClarkUSA]

88. What has this got to do with the WH wanting message control right before a SOTU?

If you have a problem with the title of this SOTU address, then I will submit the substance of his SOTU was quite apropos to its billing. Have you read or listened to it? If not, I encourage you to do so: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=2011+SOTU&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[drokhole]

97. Because it's not just "message control," it's their actual mentality...

...and it's what they promote at every stop on their "Winning the Future" tour (complete with glorious "Winning the Future" backdrop).

Yes, I listened to his speech, and I still disagree with the entire concept. Of course we need to make sure our children/students are well educated and have the capacity to develop ground-breaking innovations to society, but, in my opinion, we're going about it all wrong. If you want to read my full thoughts on the matter (since they're hard for me to simply sum up), feel free to check out my thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x583919

Also, under this rubric of "winning the future" is the fighting we're doing over seas, which I disagree with on a multitude of levels. And no where, in this "winning of the future," does he mention putting an end to this ridiculous "war on drugs."

[jillan]

86. Hey Obama - The future has changed! Remember change? You used to talk about it.

[ClarkUSA]

90. Yeah, what has he done in the past two years? Here are the FACTS --->

If you are interested, that is:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=596086&mesg_id=599959

[jillan]

95. I'm not talking about the past 2 years, I am talking about the present - what is going on right at

this minute all over the country.

[ClarkUSA]

103. Do you want him to make another statement?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x600240

[taught_me_patience]

94. I'm glad he stayed out of this

This is local politics and should be kept that way. The people of Wisconsin voted for Walker, and now they have to live with his policies.

[ScreamingMeemie]

96. Not all of the people of Wisconsin. Their fight is my fight.

What an asinine post that was. :eyes: You know, you don't have to lockstep with the administration. You really don't.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

99. Has anyone read the linked to article?

It has nothing to do with the titled post.

[Bobbie Jo]

101. Again?

There was another thread with the same article that was locked for being misleading.

Pattern? Seems to be having the desired effect.

[madfloridian]

104. Yes, it has to do with the article....those are admin's words.

[ClarkUSA]

106. The OP title is misleading. Unnamed sources talked about message control prior to the SOTU.

There is an effort to conflate this alleged attempt at message control into another outrage, which is garbage.

[slay]

119. I think the title, article, and 45 recs say it all actually - we are seen as distractions by them

wtf does STOU have to do with anything. Obama and his "great speeches" are propaganda at best. I do NOT believe Barack Obama when he says something anymore. Care to defend his recent "decisions" about Guantanamo? whatever dude.

[Better Believe It]

114. White House "angrily" quashes DNC support of labor protests: says events beyond DC a "distraction"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x600018

This is a much better and more accurate caption for a post based on the same article.

Does it meet with your approval?

:hi:

[snooper2]

113. you are SOOOOOOO slacking BBI

a seven day old story, Come ON!!!! you can do better than that...

Just when I thought you were coming to the top of your game :rofl:


What's the latest on those new murder charges?

[mike_c]

115. workers are just "distractions" from Obama's PR games....

eom

[slay]

118. +1

he acts more like a CEO - and a bad one at that - than president. ugh.

[FiveGoodMen]

117. They see the American public as distractions.