Republicans are scared to death Obama will succeed in Libya.

[kentuck]

Because they are more concerned about the next election than anything else. Have you ever seen a bigger bunch of hypocrites? After George W Bush and the illegal Iraq invasion, they have finally seen the light.

But if Khadafy is overthrown and a new government is set up in Libya, that will be difficult for the Republicans to run against. That is what they are scared of. They don't give a big rat's ass who is invaded or killed so long as there is a Republican President doing it.

If Obama is successful in getting rid of Khadafy, right or wrong, it will probably mean re-election for another term. That scares the beJesus out of the Obama haters.

[LynneSin]

1. Obama knows we need to get this done within a month else we're in trouble

Either we have a Kosovo or another Iraq/Afghanistan

[WhiteTara]

2. I'm scared he won't. n't

[kentuck]

3. Yes, we are scared that he won't succeed...

...and the Repubs are scared that he will succeed.

[Zorra]

4. So war can be good politics.

That's scary and horrible, and probably true.

[rhett o rick]

5. He should have gotten The Big Boner to buy in on the military action.

Now The Big Boner can claim he was against if things dont work out and visa versa. Not to mention that our Constitution requires Congress to declare war.

[spanone]

6. k&r...

[Tx4obama]

7. The majority of Libya's population is near the coast. This shouldn't take long.

http://mappery.com/maps/Africa-Population-Map (dot) jpg

Replace the (dot) above with a real dot to see the map, it's too big to insert into the comment area.

[lunatica]

8. Politics is all about strategery

Fuck truth or facts. It's about what's the best for the party and what's the expedient thing to do. Right now Obama is not good for the GOP and really not good for the Teabag party.

[Waiting For Everyman]

9. Yup. I agree with you.

K&R

[former9thward]

10. What is "success"? Obama has not given an end game to this.

[Thunderstruck]

12. +1

[JVS]

11. I don't think they have anything to fear there.

[MNBrewer]

13. I sincerely hope that his plans do succeed

whatever those are, if they include preventing the pro-democracy forces in Libya from being slaughtered.

[EFerrari]

14. The Republican base doesn't care about Libya.

If he loses or if he wins, he still loses. No, I don't think the Republicans are afraid.

[DFW]

15. Republicans are scared of Obama succeeding at ANYTHING

Considering their miserable slate of potential candidates to stand against Obama, I'd hope that their fears are more than justified.

[quaker bill]

28. Precisely +1

Of course being a successful CIC steps on their toes just a bit harder.

[fishwax]

29. indeed

:kick:

[Marie Marie]

16. Republicans are a'scared of everything! Poor dears.

[bluestate10]

17. They have even sent their like minds to swarm DU. nt

[Donnachaidh]

18. have they even decided on what constitutes *success*?

Or is that the detail no one really wants to think about at the moment? :sarcasm:

[FiveGoodMen]

19. We've been committed to yet another war

which we'll have to pay for with more cuts to the poor and middle class.

That is the purpose of all current US wars.

It's already succeeded.

[kentuck]

20. Success is an ambiguous concept in war...

It is defined after the fact.

If Khadafy is killed or forced to leave the country, that might be considered a "success" by some?

If some form of "democratic" government is created, that might be considered a success?

If it is over rather quickly, that might be considered a success?

If the people take over their country without American troops on the ground, that might be considered a success.

However, at the moment, no one wishes to stick their neck under the blade. They will interpret and define the "victory" after the "war" is "won".

[provis99]

23. nope. there's no endgame.

If Gadaffi were the target, that would be the endgame. But this vague, "bomb to protect civilians" directive has no point of reference to decide when success has been achieved.

[StarburstClock]

21. Regime change is a direct violation of the UN charter, and it's spelled Gaddafi

I know laws and treaties don't matter when a person's political alignment wants to ignore them, and insulting everyone by calling them "Obama haters" is just as ignorant.

[kentuck]

22. People spell it different ways.

http://boston.com/community/blogs/less_is_more/2011/02/gaddafi_qaddafi_khadafi_khadaf.html

[Initech]

24. I finally see an upside to Libya.

[Arkana]

25. I don't want Obama to be responsible for getting "rid" of Gadhafi.

That's the rebellion's problem.

We're just trying to keep them from getting killed.

[bobbolink]

30. Exactly, nor is that what the Libyans want. They want to try him themselves.

Its their revolution, and they want to fight it. They just want Gs bombing to stop.

[Arkana]

31. If Iraq and Afghanistan have proven anything

it is that we blow goats at nation-building. Really. We suck at it. If there was a Special Olympics for Nationbuilding, they wouldn't even give us an award just for trying.

[bobbolink]

32. This is NOT about Iraq.

The Libyans aren't asking us to build them a nation.

They don't WANT us to build them a nation.

They will REFUSE to let us build then a nation.

Can you jump the rails for one minute and understand that there is a DIFFERENCE here?

[Arkana]

35. I do understand--I realize that the circumstances here are very different.

1) We have cause--it's on our TV screens and on the Internet every day.

2) We have UN approval and a strong coalition that isn't us, Poland, and Costa Rica.

3) Most importantly, WE WERE INVITED. The rebels asked why the world wasn't helping them as Gadhafi dropped bombs on their heads. This would be us helping.

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[myrna minx]

27. I'm curious how we define "success" . This is all too nebulous for me and I

fear it's another quagmire in the making - with the benefactors being the IMF and the neo-cons and the expense of our troops and the Libyan people. :-(

[meow mix]

33. That scares the beJesus out of the Obama haters.

yah, also known as DU

[ProgressIn2008]

34. I don't give a shit what Republicans think or whether Obama "succeeds"

whatever "success" means here. Or what new government getting "set up" in Libya will mean. That's just one more form of politics-as-football and I'm done with that. I'm rooting for the world to come out unscathed.