They say here in Europe that Greenland is very warm

[Ichingcarpenter]

And the Gulf stream has shut down.

Records now, low and and high.beyond the so called in Greenland

AMERICAN EXPERIENCE..... which should be more important
than anything going on in this planet.





They said here...... the BP spill caused part of it.

We have a high here of 19degrees
these times have broken all records.

Normally its around freezing or above.
the fiords are freezing.

Record shit since the Vikings left.

[Confusious]

1. Well I must be overestimating the intelligence of europeans then

If the gulf stream had shut down, the south would be having massive hurricanes right now.

[Ichingcarpenter]

3. Breaking all Danish Records here

The Seas are freezing here

Copenhagen has run out of salt for the Roads.
saw it on TV

Its breaking all records.


Meanwhile....... Greenland is warming.

[Confusious]

4. I lived in Alaska for 20 years.

We had two winters in a row that got down to forty below. Not recently. 20 years ago. Sometimes shit happens.

There are no sunspots right now. The last time this happened was 200 years ago. Normal is 20000 to 50000. last year they saw 50 to 100.

No sunspots, cooler weather.

It's also suppose to be weird with climate change.

Something as big as the gulf stream would wreak havoc on a much larger scale.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. The weather patterns are changing

more than the news wishes to acknowledge to the public.

Its the only thin to me

that real is the planet's life.

Politics come and go....... as do civilizations..


WE ARE ON A MAJOR PLANETARY ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGE,
beyond some conception and comprehension..

Got to keep the wal mart shoppers.

[Confusious]

11. Sure. Did the crystals tell you that?

Or was it in a dream? If we don't know, how do you?

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. You don't Confuse me

unless you live your life in your confusion

I love your grip on the world...........We shall never question
your life in the little valley you live in.


See......... I can attack you tooo,

[Confusious]

20. No, I question my life all the time

I like to find answers though. Real answers, based in science, not woo. Others don't, it seems.

You didn't answer the question. How did you get that information. How are you privy to it, and the rest of us peons are not?

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. Oh, ........ I forgot you are a climatogist..

And worked on and studied global climate change.


Actually..... look for a draught in the Yucatan soon


Patterns.

[Confusious]

6. I suppose you are, chicken little?

I guess not buying into your pet theory is a reason to be a jerk?

[pintobean]

8. He cites the ever so accurate

'they say'.

[DCKit]

13. I've heard that we have, in fact, passed the tipping point in some areas of the Amazon.

Not necessarily drought conditions, but not nearly the kind of rains they count on to keep the rivers full and flowing. It takes a lot of trees to pump that moisture back into the atmosphere to create year-round rains.

It's hitting the fan all over.

[malaise]

23. My sister told that it was 16 below zero earlier today

in her part of Denmark. She said it was beautiful though - like a winter postcard. I did laugh - I'll take my 78 every day of the week.

[Tesha]

26. She's almost certainly quoting you Celsius degrees, though.

For us, -16C is 3F. Still cold, but not quite so cold. ;)

Tesha

[jwirr]

22. Just saw one of those weather maps showing the snow storm - it

looks like a hurricane coming off the Atlantic. :sarcasm:

[baldguy]

2. And there's no way anyone in the US would know anything about it.

Climate change is a myth, because it's bad publicity for the oil companies.

[Sal Minella]

7. I read somewhere on the innerwebz that the Gulf Stream has

now swung to the north and flows toward Greenland instead of crossing the northern Atlantic and dispersing its warmth to the British Isles and Europe.

Can't help but wonder if all the fresh water flowing from the Greenland ice sheet has anything to do with this.

If fresh water is lighter than salt water, it seems logical there must be some effects somewhere.

[Ichingcarpenter]

12. In celcius

10 degrees for greenland. negative that to Europe.

Yes, here over in Europe

Scientists are saying

The BP Spill cause something and their solution helped contributed to this
SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON.

[leeroysphitz]

18. Scientists are saying this?

Well, then, that settles it.

[Confusious]

19. Which scientists?

Would you happen to have some names, or just "they"

[Confusious]

14. Doesn't look like it from these DAILY pictures

Of the gulf stream.

http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/avhrr/

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

10. Didn't Denmark grant independence to Greenland?

And now the Greenlanders have hijacked the gulf stream?

Ingrates.

:hi:

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. Now.......I need real beer

to think abbot that

Oh.........Yes the colors
need real expiation.

[n2doc]

15. All those who wish to doubt the pattern

Look at this


real data. No Bullcrap.

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/maps/

[Warpy]

21. Although the Gulf Stream has slowed a bit in recent years

there is no hint that it has actually shut down. In fact, a trip over to shows you exactly where it is and how much warmer it is than the Arctic water north of it.

Greenland is warming in part because the ocean around it is warming, including the northernmost fringe of the Gulf Stream.

You're likely seeing the effect of minimum sunspot activity instead of a dead Gulf Stream. If that died, you'd be starting to see glacier formation at sea level, not just a frigid winter.

[Odin2005]

24. The weather has gone insane.

[petronius]

25. Did they give any specific explanation of why they think the spill affected the Gulf Stream?

Or any empirical evidence that the GS has stopped or changed appreciably?

I'd be curious to read it...