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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:25 PM Original message |
I am retired now, I did not get my SS report this year.. and you know what |
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RC
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. And all those people that do not have computers? |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I live in a small town in the midwest.. and everyone in town has access |
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madinmaryland
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It is not always the point that there is access, it is the fact that a lot of older |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Again.. access is as close as the library. Even the very elderly |
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madinmaryland
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. The point is not that. There are some people who actually have no clue |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I know I hear you.. |
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madinmaryland
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. You know what is funny, is that my Dad probably already knows about this. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. You can.. |
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spooky3
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Sat Apr-02-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
141. "In light of the current budget situation, we have suspended issuing Social Security Statements. " |
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Obamanaut
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
111. My MIL is 96 and lives in a nursing home. In one of the activity/meeting rooms |
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Ilsa
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. My father only has bad memories of computers from |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. So many families I worked with Ilsa, had no address..no home, no place |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. Please post the name of the town, so everyone can move there. |
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TheWraith
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Sooner or later, society has to move on. |
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Modern_Matthew
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yep. We can't cater to every outlier of modern society. nt |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. And economically strapped families that move a lot.. |
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Modern_Matthew
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. +1 Holding onto relics of the past when there's better alternatives just makes no sense to me. nt |
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Omaha Steve
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. It was on a DU post earlier today |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. If that is the kind of cuts that the Democrats have agreed to .. I am okay with that |
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Sherman A1
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. I just got mine yesterday in the mail |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. To be honest with you.. I do not know when or if it will start.. I am just responding |
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Fumesucker
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. Out of sight out of mind.. |
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SpartanDem
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. This has been done for the last 10 of 70+ years |
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Fumesucker
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
61. By itself, no, but but it together with a lot of other political trends.. |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
78. Actually, this is a HUGE step in getting rid of a lot of POOR PEOPLE. |
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Curmudgeoness
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
12. Although I think this is a good idea, I do have a problem |
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madinmaryland
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. That is another problem I see. I had not heard anything about this until |
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katnapped
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Yeah, exactly |
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Curmudgeoness
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
67. Good point. They probably decided it wasn't such a good idea |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Here you go.. |
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madinmaryland
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Huh? I didn't even know they had a web site!! |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. That is how I applied for my SS.. I retired early and took early SS.. but |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
15. In all honesty, it's not doing much to save the environment. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Well lets say postage.. just postage.. hmm that is going to be some bucks |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Your savings becomes completely void once the government starts |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. The computer is at the senior center now.. it is at the library now |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Well, that's great for where you are, but not everyone has that luxury. n/t |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. soo .. Grandma Louise has been collecting her SS for the last 11 years |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. My mom collects SS, too. But she doesn't have a computer. She's technophobic |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Then this is not going to bother her one bit.. |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. I'm just arguing that you're spreading a false argument. It's not better for the environment. n/t |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Actually paper and food packaging is the biggest part of the landfill.. |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:48 PM Original message |
Paper is not nearly as damaging as the chemicals in a computer, not to mention |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. So are you using a computer, a polluter computer? |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Yes, I am. All computers are polluters. I'm not saying don't use computers, but your |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Re read op.. nothing wrong with my argument.. if they are going to cut. |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I read your OP, and it's not even truthful. Anyways, have a goodnight. n/t |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I am retired, My mother is 82.. I did not get a report this year |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #94 |
108. Alright, one last time, then I'm done. (Dr. Zhivago is on) You're not going to save any |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Well why did not not get mine? :) |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
86. There is a more immediate cost. Many many people will now have to go to the office in person to get |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Nope. they go to the library. shelter, churches, friends. and a gazillion other |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. I realize you think you know all about this, but you don't. This is about more than YOUR social |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Let me get this straight.. you are all for people who are making 30, 40 70 thousand |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Thank you for proving my point. You have now made it clear to those watching your words that you |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Your point is what? inquiring minds would like to know |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
125. I stated it quite clearly, and you stated yours quite clearly. Whats neat is that your recs are 0. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #125 |
136. I have no recs.. oh what will I do..what will I do.. |
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Sheepshank
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Sat Apr-02-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #102 |
142. of the 150 million+ mailers |
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REP
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Sat Apr-02-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
143. These mailings are not used to prove anything. They're 'FYI' only |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. Computers are not built or bought for electronic notifications. |
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Exilednight
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I've heard this argument before, but truth is, most people just use them for |
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former9thward
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. I guess we know different kinds of people. |
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Bluenorthwest
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yeah, the government should not help the elderly when |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Well having those reports mailed has only been happening for the last 10 years |
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Bluenorthwest
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Yes, but you Mother as a retiree would not have gotten one |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. If she wants to look something up.. she can, and sometimes does |
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Bluenorthwest
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. The report that is not being sent was never sent to current |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Facts are facts.. Retired people still access information on their Social Security. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Also, when people pass away, the social security will change for |
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Bluenorthwest
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Sure, they access information, just not the same information |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. My OP |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
107. It shouldn't be the government, it should be the churches. Where have we heard that before, eh? |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
25. How very nice for you. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yes it is nice for me.. I love it.. thank you |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
104. And that is all that counts. Thank you for making that clear. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. You hang out with teabaggers? You better watch that |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. YEs, sadly, when I come to DU, I often find them and/or their mentality. |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
39. There are disabled people who can't get out easily. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. The retired do not really need the reports..we did not have them 10 years ago |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. Why should people at the bottom have to choose between scraps? |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Sooooo.. how are people at the bottom getting scraps by accessing informtion online? |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Because many people aren't online. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Mimosa.. being able to access their beneficary report on line is a benefit for the poor |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Why not have both options of mail and internet? n/t |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. If cutting this will save money for EHS etc.. cut this.. we did not have it 10 years ago |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
41. Most elderly people I know do NOT have computers. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. So how do you think your elderly friends go their SS in the first place |
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Bluenorthwest
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. This is not what your OP says |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Telephone. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
48. Stop bombing shit and we'll be able to keep all those programs - |
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girl gone mad
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. Save the trees!!11! |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Trees are a renewable resource. |
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girl gone mad
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
93. My point is that if the OP is so worried about trees.. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. And the postage also.. I mean if they are looking for savings are not things |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
57. You lost it |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Well I would not know.. I am retired.. |
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Bluenorthwest
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. But in your OP you say |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. I didn't.. it was due in March, because my birthday is the first day of June..and I will not get it |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. And I am all over that and for it if it will save programs for children .. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
65. I don't know the percentage, but MANY people who are 60-70+ |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Billy Jack.. it is not about those of us retired already.. |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Bombs are more important than making life easier for the working people? |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Lets see... I am promoting Early Head Start and EFNEP and you are talking bombs |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
71. Well, whoopdeedooo.. Isn't it just grand that you have resources that many people DON'T have? |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Well bobolink.. I am grand, and wonderful, and happy as can be. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Unlike so many, I understand some of the advantages that I have. The disadvantages I have |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Well families who are really in a situation that they do not have an address should be able |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Some can, some can't and many at GREAT COST both to themselves (which doesn't matter to so many here |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Go to the local SS office and they will look it up for free. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. And you just told me that people don't do this. Please, make up your mind. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Told you what? not to go to SS office.. where?? |
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Mimosa
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Bobbolink, I know a few working people who can no longer afford internet access. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 07:57 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. The fact that you recognize it and are willing to care makes you a lot different from so many here. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
116. It makes NO difference to those collecting SS already since they didn't get these |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
129. I'm sure there are others as clever as she, who manages to post from her car |
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Sun Apr-03-11 03:52 PM Response to Reply #129 |
144. Beating up on homeless folks now - |
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Bluerthanblue
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Sat Apr-02-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #76 |
138. check with your city library- several |
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Snoutport
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
95. cheers!! |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Hi.!! Cheers to you also |
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Snoutport
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. I believe, if this was a debate....you would have just won hands down. |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. You know |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Its always a LOAD of fun when you can rile people up. That is what DU is for. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
121. What's to get riled about? I always thought these reports were a waste of money |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Exactly. If you can't rile people, why the hell go to DU? |
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bobbolink
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
112. "Peace is more than the absence of war. It is the presence of Justice." |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
114. ONCE YOU ARE COLLECTING SS, YOU NO LONGER GET THOSE YEARLY REPORTS ANYWAY |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Exactly.. the whole point.. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:37 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I almost cannot believe how many are missing this point ... but that's Chinatown for you |
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Peacetrain
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. I know.. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. See below |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Some day you MAY understand there ARE people who DO get them.. and NEED them. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Explain. I get my 1099s in the mail - how am I different from other SS recipients? |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Several people have "enlightened" you. Sorry it didn't take. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:48 PM Response to Reply #128 |
132. No; you tried insulting me and that just doesn't work. Try harder. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. I am retired.. I am not getting them.. My Mother is not getting them.. My op |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Yes, most of us "got it". Thats why your recs are ZERO. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:47 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. That is my fan club in action.... |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. More insults? Goodness. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #130 |
135. I can get you a membership in the Peacetrain Fan Club.. You can unrec |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
122. Ditto! Oh, sorry, not supposed to say that here. dc |
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Sat Apr-02-11 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
133. The thing is.. once they get rid of a paper trail... |
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Sat Apr-02-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #133 |
137. Nope...simply print your electronic annual earnings report out and keep it |
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Sat Apr-02-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
139. how? that is such private information. |
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Sat Apr-02-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
140. Computers do not insure privacy. |
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