Rhee just said on MSNBC that all you need is a pulse and not have a criminal

[WCGreen]

in order to get a job as a teacher.

What the fuck?

And the guy on MSNBC just let that comment go....

[Hawkeye-X]

1. Rhee needs to resign in disgrace

and begin working as a burger flipper in some greasy spoon.

[WCGreen]

6. It's harder to get a teaching job than ever before...

I know young people who are interested in teaching having to get a masters degree now in order to be marketable.

I also know two Cleveland school teachers and they are gutting the system, making it almost sure to fail. The Charter Schools are sucking all the good kids and financially able kids away from the general pool and leaving the behavior problem kids, the troubled kids and the kids without connection basically to fend for themselves.

25 kids in a class and a couple of special needs kids just for snick's and you have a disaster looming.

[Cosmocat]

In some urban schools, this is probably the case ...

I think that is the point of reference for everyone who is looking to get at the golden goose egg that is the tax payers dollars that fund public education - urban schools are ground zero for them to both point at as the "example" to make blanket statements about how horrible public education is, and also to begin to tap into the tax payer dollars for vouchers and charters ... ect ...

The statement at large is false, of course ...

It is harder than heck for young teachers to break in ...

And, despite what is now accepted "wisdom" our public education system is not bad on average, good more than not ...

[GoCubsGo]

18. That only applies to public schools around here.

As far as the private "Christian academies go", Rhee is correct. No teaching degree necessary. They just have to love Jaysus.

[texshelters]

23. She did pull a Palin and resign as Chancellor of schools in DC

and got hired by Gov Rick Scott in Florida. I guess McGraw Hill wasn't selling enough test materials in Florida and so they brought her in to sell them.

She has no idea how the classroom works and how to motivate kids and thinks testing is the answer like all the other jokers who sit in their high chairs whining about schools.

If people want to improve schools, raise the minimum wages of parents and change our society while looking for the best teaching practices. Stop blaming the teachers.

Are there bad teachers. Sure. Let's make us all better and drop the pretense that testing kids is the best way to evaluate teachers.

http://leanleft.com/2010/10/14/michelle-rhee-was-a-failure-what-that-says-about-education-reformers/

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[chimpymustgo]

24. The voters FIRED her, when they elected Gray. She had the choice to resign or be fired by the new

mayor. God, I wish that bitch would shut up and go away.

[texshelters]

45. Yes, but she would have resigned anyway for more money.

I would have like to see her fired.

Let's hope the new DC Chancellor has a more balanced approach.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Brickbat]

2. Shame on her. She is horrid.

[Journeyman]

3. Similar to the requirements for being a television pundit. . .

only there's no need to have a functioning brain to be on TV. . .

[LynneSin]

4. How do you explain Rush Limbaugh then

:shrug:

[hughee99]

11. I'm not sure Limbaugh has a pulse, but I don't think he has a criminal record.

If I remember right, he got a sweet-ass deal that involved no guilty plea. I think he just needed to finish rehab and pay a fine "to defer the costs of the investigation" and the charges were dismissed.

[Journeyman]

33. Rush Limbaugh is not a pundit - by his own definition, he's a "comedian". . .

[Stinky The Clown]

5. Michelle Rhee works for a wackadoodle repubican governor.

Prior to that, she worked for a "Democratic" corporatist.

Give as much credence to her spew as you feel she warrants. I think she has no credibility.

[WCGreen]

7. I don't believe she has any credibility with the people she directly

effects but I believe she has a huge impact on the decision makers and that is far more important.

It seems her main focus is to discredit the teaching profession.

[Stinky The Clown]

28. I don't think she influences so much as says what some want to hear. She's a spokesmodel.

She has her corporate sponsors and they line her up for gigs.

[somone]

8. The idea is to downgrade teaching from a profession to a McJob

controlled by corporate drones who are highly compensated by taxpayers

[virgogal]

9. As a former teacher and the mother of a teacher her

comments gave me a big,fat headache.

[no_hypocrisy]

10. That criteria doesn't even apply to SUBSTITUTE teachers.

You need to show academic training in education and have a modicum of experience.

[qazplm]

13. depends on the district

I never had academic training in education, no experience, and boom teacher because they were desperate, and probably because they knew I was only going to be at the job for a semester before going on active duty.

[qazplm]

12. well

plus a bachelor's degree that's all I had when I was a teacher for a semester.

Plenty of great teachers and there are some requirements in many places, but many of them can be completed after being hired because the need is so great.

I don't think it was an inaccurate statement, although perhaps a simplistic one that doesn't take into account that each state has varying standards.

[YvonneCa]

14. She was on Hardball a couple of weeks ago...

...spouting the usual stuff, and Matthews agreed with her on everything. I emailed the show to express how disrespectful this was to educators, and I haven't watched Hardball since.

I like MSNBC, but I refuse to watch this crap about teachers.

[senseandsensibility]

38. Good for you.

We shouldn't take this dishonesty from him or anyone else.

[MichiganVote]

15. Are you kidding? MSM wants their guests to say shit like this.

Anyone with knowledge beyond a balance sheet in education knows this is false and Rhee knows it too. She don't care, Gates don't care---None of them care. She'll do the Palin thing, write a book, go on a game show and presto--she's an American expert!

[Supersedeas]

20. television 'news' makes use of our national airways in ways that keep us...stupified

as they pacify the interests which sponsor them.

[MichiganVote]

43. The MSM in the the US is soley a business. What they sell is worthless to me.

[johnfunk]

16. Waiting for Stuporwoman to Shut Her Lying Piehole!

Aaaaaaaugh!

[Rex]

17. And yet those are still higher standards then being a pundit on a national swalk show.

Obviously all you need is a pulse. Has SHE passed a criminal background check? I doubt they bother with that.

[patrice]

19. Being attacked like that is a sure sign that TPB have an agenda that they wish to disguise. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

21. But, she NOW works for a crook so what does that make her. Oh, wait...

[Tatiana]

22. And our Secretary of Education Arne Duncan thinks she's just GRRRRRRRRREAT!

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan said Wednesday that he is actively reaching out to D.C. Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee and presumptive mayor Vincent Gray in an attempt to work out a deal to keep Rhee in her job. After Gray defeated incumbent Mayor Adrian Fenty in a bitter Democratic primary last week, education reformers expressed concern that Rhee—a Fenty ally—would quit her post, imperiling all the recent progress the troubled school system has made. During a breakfast meeting with reporters, Duncan acknowledged that he has already spoken to Rhee once, and will talk to her again when she returns from her honeymoon with new husband Kevin Johnson, the mayor of Sacramento, Calif. He also said he has repeatedly tried to reach Gray by phone to discuss the matter with him. “We’ve been trading calls the last two days, but we will talk,” Duncan said.

Asked if he was considering adding Rhee to his team, Duncan said he was a “big fan” of the schools chancellor but said he thought her “leadership” was needed in her current job. “I’d like to give this thing a chance to improve over time,” he said.

(more...)

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/09/22/why-arne-duncan-wants-michelle-rhee-to-stay.html

[texshelters]

25. Duncan is a fool that thinks

if someone passes a test, they're smart.

He's the accomplice in the "Race to the Top" program that is trying to be NCLB on steroids.

The only thing those programs are good at is draining resources to buy tests. McGraw-Hill thanks them all.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[Hannah Bell]

41. of course he's a fool. but a rich, connected one so it doesn't matter.

[texshelters]

44. It matters

because he is part of the problem that is bankrupting education. But yes, it doesn't matter that he is wrong that that statistics don't back up his test-only method.

Peace,
Tex Shelters

[tekisui]

26. That rules out dick cheney.

[mike_c]

27. to be fair, no one even asked whether I have a criminal record....

It's true! :rofl:

Come to think of it, no one checked my pulse, either. I guess they figured all those years of professional training were sufficient....

[proud2BlibKansan]

37. I was asked if I had a criminal record but my pulse wasn't checked

Had to take a TB test though.

[mike_c]

39. I presume the difference is that what I do is ostensibly "adult" education....

Sometimes that's even an accurate description! :rofl:

[WinkyDink]

29. This is why Gates et al. want to remove a Master's (or more) from being a salary issue.

Denigrate the teachers' educational level. Denigrate the years of experience. Make student scores on standardized tests the criterion of "successful teaching," never mind that the "n" tested group changes perforce every year and thus cannot evidence annual improvement.

Insist that great teaching means an Ivy League baccalaureate and a year of Gates-Training, aka TfA.
Ignore an actual concentration in one's subject matter, or vacations spent travellng to source sites, or studying with renowned professors, .......

BAH.

[Taverner]

30. Absolute BS

In fact, I think you need a BS or a BA...

[Riley18]

31. That's funny. Why doesn't she give teaching a try? I would

have challenged her to go and work for at least five years teaching. She could even pick an "easy" school in a nice neighborhood. I doubt she could handle anything more difficult.

I wish she had told me I only needed a pulse to teach because it would have saved me close to $40,000 in college tuition.


It appears to me that all you need to be an "expert" on education in this country is a pulse and a snarky little attitude.

F**k her.

[proud2BlibKansan]

34. She taught for 3 years

She was a TFA recruit back in the early 90s.

[Riley18]

35. So she did not get a degree in teaching? Is the TFA a Gates

thing? Three years is nowhere near enough experience to be out there acting the way she does.

[proud2BlibKansan]

36. Teach for America

Not really a Gates thing but he likes the program.

[Hannah Bell]

42. no, it was a stepping stone to administration & being a shill for school deform.

the big bucks.

she's the one who taped her students' mouths shut & pulled it off so hard it bled.

she recounted that as a humorous anecdote.

she also took her elementary school students out after school without telling their parents. driving around in her car.

that was another humorous anecdote.

but despite all that, she supposedly raised her students' scores by leaps and bounds.

there's no documentation of any of this.

we just have to take her word for it.

imo, she was a plant from day one.

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. I can't put into words how deeply I despise this woman

She represents everything that is wrong with school administration today.

[Hannah Bell]

40. rhee should get hit by a bus. she's -- i won't use the word, but -- a political hack who sells

herself for money.

more & more of these lying, fraudulent hacks are in power. they're fascists whose only god is money & power.