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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:29 AM Original message |
Iodine 131 found in Hawaii milk at 6 times the federally allowed level. People are getting sick. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm going to ask my friends in Hawaii. |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Please report back when you hear from them. |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. Yes please |
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SlicerDicer- (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
102. I am fine afaik? I am not drinking milk anymore though for what thats worth. |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:03 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Glad to hear you're doing well and taking the precautions that make you comfortable. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
4. The only illness that milk can cause is psychosomatic. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
92. Hi there |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
5. What this means is that you shouldn't drink the amount of milk for a year that you would drink water |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. High levels of various types of cesium were also found by the EPA |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Radiation sickness is what you get at far higher exposures |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. You're telling me that injesting radioactive milk isn't going to affect my stomach? |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. There is always radiation. The question is whether this is high enough to make a difference |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. And that fact that it exceeds the federal limit of 3 pci/l of drinking water by 6 times suggests |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. No, it doesn't. n/t |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. do you have any support for your statement? See the warning from France at the bottom of the page. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Here's the kind of proof that YOU need. (Not me) |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. If you have no proof then don't provide false assurances of safety |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
74. You have a reading comprehension problem. I never posted any assurances either way. n/t |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Nah, my reading comprension is actually pretty good. |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. No, it isn't. When I say "No it doesnt" meaning, you havent proved something is unsafe... |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. You won't get far with this one. Logic is not his strong suit. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. "A French NGO is warning people not to drink milk". Wrong. Why do you do this? |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. I'm sorry, but that's what it says. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Correcting inaccuracies is "splitting hairs"? Drinking too much milk for INFANTS and PG women MAY |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. You are wasting your time. That person has serious reading comprehension issues. To them... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Because the federal limit is for long term exposure, and is about preventing buildup in the thyroid |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. "The milk sampling results are far below the Food and Drug Administration's Derived ..." |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. That is SO reassuring. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Glad that finding out it isn't deadly reassures you. It should. You do know that is from your link |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. Cancer isn't deadly? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. wtf? Some cancers are deadly, some aren't, but who is saying "cancer isn't deadly"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Deleted message |
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Ah, your link disproves what you post, it is pointed out to you, and you accuse me of being on |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Japan has said this could last months and months. Buildup matters buddy. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
83. But the iodine is decaying fast |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. Cesium 137 has a half life of 30 years. Also, the radiation hasn't stopped hitting us. |
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DeadEyeDyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
90. Do a google search on ALARA |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. The stomach flu |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I hope it's just stomach flu. At worst though, by calling attention to this, people may learn the |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
7. Hmm. Does Hawaii import milk from Japan? Not a lot of dairy farming |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. There are a couple of dairies on the Big Island but that is it. |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:47 AM Response to Reply #57 |
94. I know there is a lot of ranching but I thought it was mostly beef. Could be some dairy though. |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
8. I am NOT AT ALL discounting anything about radiation in milk..i know nothing about the poisoning |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. true |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. And your situation highlights the problem... |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Thanks for your thoughtful response |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. and for the reasons you just mentioned... |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Now see |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. You know the milk industry is probably lobbying hard to keep this under wraps.I contacted local news |
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TurningPointTime (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
11. Glad I don't drink milk anymore |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I've heard good arguments |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Its a good thing everything is all about ME. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
12. That's not even a vaguely dangerous amount. nt |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Could you provide a source on this? |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Your own links seem to point that out |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Why is the legal limit so much higher for food than it is for drinking water? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:01 PM Original message |
Because people drink more water than milk or food? Or because (tinfoil time) |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. Even if people drink 8 glasses of water vs 1 glass of milk, 4600 vs 3 is a huge difference |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I translated some of the pdf linked in the french milk/greens topic. Will send off a note to family |
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mkultra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
95. probably because the limits are set by different agencies |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
16. Correlation is not causation. |
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necso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:39 AM Response to Original message |
18. Your linked epa(!) page |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:03 AM Response to Original message |
19. I believe people need about 400 mSv to actually show any symptom of radiation sickness |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
20. Occam's Razor. |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. OTOH, the consequences of ignoring the canary in the coalmine are huge though |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
24. Physicians for Social Responsibility VERY CONCERNED... |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. Don't feel bad....my posts about nuclear get me yelled at too... |
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ComtesseDeSpair (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
26. Are you a calf? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Because some of us like to drink it either straight or in our coffee/tea. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
96. why do people have to challenge others drinking milk? how stupid. if a person wants to |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 03:23 AM Response to Reply #96 |
104. I'd honestly never seen this before DU |
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spedtr90 (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
27. EPA considers yearly levels rather than current? |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
29. More scare mongering. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
31. "People are getting sick" is a daily thing!! WHY is another question. SCARE POST |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
32. Iodine 131 would be taken up by the thyroid gland. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
34. Unrec for several reasons |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. consider this though |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Consider this though. Correlation is not causation. Posting I-131 is high AND people are getting |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yah, we know that. How about helping to determine if there's causation? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. You post I-131 found in Hawaii milk at 6 times the federally allowed level. People are getting sick. |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. What do you think of the post at the bottom of the page where the EU warns about milk consumption? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. found it. some of it translated |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. more of it translated via babelfish |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. a bit more |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
69. It is a research group, Not The EU. Wish I could unrec for another not quite truthful post. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. That's not the EU; it's an independent non-profit organization |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Thank you muriel, glad to see I am not the only one noticing this. |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
36. "Radiation risks from Fukushima 'no longer negligible'" |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. s |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
89. Franzia, there are two basic ways you can get sick from radioactive iodine |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
50. They should stock up on coconut milk. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
63. People saying this is psychosomatic are violating DU rules |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
70. Unrrec for total dishonesty. 6 times the MCL will not make you sick. |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. This isn't dishonest. It could very well be the canary in the coalmine for the U.S. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Except the canary is still alive and singing, disproving your whole attempt here |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. No, your OP is a total lie. 6 times MCL will not make anyone sick. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
72. If you are sick then go to the doctor. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Best answer here. Go see a doctor rather than asking anonymous internet users for medical advice |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. People have a right to know about things that may become a threat to them. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
91. I believe what is happening in Japan |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
97. Those levels aren't going to make you sick |
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franzia99 (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. How the heck do you know how much one time exposure will make one sick? |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
100. Some articles I got from Natural News earlier. |
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divvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
101. handy radiation chart |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
105. Something is going around. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
106. Cholo's in Haleiwa closed for the day after norovirus traced back there. |
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