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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:39 PM Original message |
Why was the quality of American-made cars so bad in the 70's and 80's? |
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aSpeckofDust (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. If I had to make a wild guess, I'd say corners were cut to maximize profit. late 70's/80's had.. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. The profit motive was indeed there |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
92. Fact. They went from american made parts to mexico parts. Cheaper |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #92 |
110. Good to know that part of the history. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Profit over quality and reliability. I watched a program on this quite awhile ago. The auto |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
119. a precursor to the modern MBA mindset: instead of making profits by selling the best product |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Read about the work of W. Edwards Deming - it pretty much explains it all. |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I'm well acquainted with Deming |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
111. Um, not to sound too partisan here, but what exactly would you (or |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-15-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #111 |
140. I agree...the MBA types that traditionally went into finance started showing up in manufacturing. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Very interesting and a nice person too! Business and Gov. could well learn from |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Very cool to cite Demming. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Production incentives in the 70's were focused on units output. |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. Demming got folks in section J to communicate with folks back in section B |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
112. I've had jobs where the boss didn't want to here about it. |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #112 |
123. IMHO Demming proved you make more money with honey |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
103. It seems few people here on DU have heard of him. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think it's just American cars, most cars of that era sucked. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Yep, they rusted out all over the place. Real rust buckets. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. I had a 78 mercury cougar that would run a hole in the wind |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. The original Honda Accord was an engineering marvel. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yea, I had an 8 year old 79 Accord. Loved it. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
113. I agree - pound for pound the best engineered car of it's time. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
65. For sure. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #65 |
114. When I moved to MN from OR my previously rust free |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fat, lazy, and incompetent auto company execs is more like it. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Because we bought them |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Winner over here! Winner over here! |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
10. I often think these days that it's been years & years since I've seen a rust bucket on the road. |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
115. Plastic doesn' rust. |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #115 |
126. My Saturn's plastic butmost cars are metal. I'm really thinking of how cars got pockmarked all over |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think it's because the men responsible |
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ejbrush (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. Bean counting. |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I have to agree with you there |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Hey our '76 chevy farm truck is still running strong. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
87. We were a three '77 Chevy pickup family at one time... |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #87 |
130. Round headlights... ;-) nt |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
116. Carpeting in a truck. *picks up jaw from floor* |
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atomic-fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. read this book...not sure it answers all, but good read |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:15 PM Response to Original message |
16. A lot of it had to do with technology. Most of the technology that was |
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reformist2 (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Complacent execs and, yes, union workers. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
101. Bullshit. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
18. It was a universal problem in the 1970s. The book "Lemons" noted this. UK cars were terrible... |
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Oasis_ (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Also |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Yeah, but like I was saying it wasn't just the US that was having problems. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #27 |
97. How else is a kid supposed to learn how to use pop rivets and Bondo? |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I didn't know anyone with a car from Europe either |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
98. There were some NASTY Fiats |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #98 |
120. The Ford Pinto |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. I had to learn how drive on a piece of shit Ford PINTO 3 on the column!!!! OMG |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. "Three on the tree" we called it |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
89. Tree shifting was fucking insane. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
24. And don't forget American Motors |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. YUP...that's who made the piece of junk Rambler Station Wagon. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Yeah, I think the Gremlin was well named. It was awful looking and |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
81. I still want a Javelin /nt |
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tilsammans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #81 |
133. And I want my old Javelin back! |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
122. I had never even heard of those cars. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. I had a 69 Javelin AMX, loved the car, but |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. I had an 1980 AMC Eagle, it was a good car. The first American |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
61. My first car was a used Pacer, God help me. nt |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
80. Hey.. James Bond drove a Javelin in Man With The Golden Gun |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
121. If by landmark you mean good, then I agree. |
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tilsammans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #24 |
131. Uh, hello? I had a Javelin, and . . . |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
25. A few reasons, I think. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. Lets not forget the Chevy Vega! |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Interesting perspective, thank you |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
109. I think Delco was a product marketing division of GM. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #109 |
138. Delco was the parts division of GM. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
30. The decisions that made them so awful were made at the top |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. Chevy Vega... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Whoa! Their ad had them saying "Bullshit" |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Wow, she DID say bullshit |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Can you find the doughboy ad? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #35 |
91. Holy crap! You're not kidding! |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It had an aluminum block engine. We had the engine replaced when |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #34 |
69. That car was pretty good after dropping a 327 in it and a ford 9 bolt rear |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. To me, they stopped building cars and started building transport. |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. My family is split |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. planned obsolesence . . . american goods were made to not last so |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I'm curious to see if the same thing is going to happen in NASCAR |
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MedicalAdmin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
124. Nascar has nothing to do with cars. |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
137. Won't happen. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
45. The auto makers rejected Deming's Quality Movement. Japan benefitted as did we |
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Dawson Leery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
46. There was this shameless piece of trash from Cadillac |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Don't forget the Cadillac Cimarron |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. And, of course, the Cadillac Catera |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. If they sucked so bad, then why do some sell for $100k+ today? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. (facepalm) |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Don't forget, it was the EPA's fault, too. Those damn enviro-tree huggers with their 'regulations'. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
76. Were it not for the pressure from the beancounters |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #53 |
83. Fine. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Performance models were never built in large numbers to begin with |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. How many toyota cressidas rolled off the assembly line? |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. What do all those vehicles have in common? |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Besides the fact that they're american? |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I understand that the Japanese RWD vehicles of the time are in far less demand. |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. No denying that the switch to FWD was executed horribly |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Yeah, I'd say the energy crises in general were largely to blame. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Why aren't there Japanese cars in BJ auctions? Because an enormous |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Search craigslist for "1971" cars |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
85. Do you really see a lot of 70's Japanese cars around? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. The global auto industry was decadent in the 70s, it wasn't just US cars. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
59. I haven't had a chance to read all the replies, but here's how I understand it. |
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NoGOPZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
62. It was the fault of neither the engineers nor the workers |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
77. Yup. The car guys and engineers were booted out |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
68. I loved my 77 1/2 Black Camaro Z28 pre-IROC-Z mullethead. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
70. My 70's cars kicked serious ass! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. The monte carlo is worth something today. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #73 |
86. Oh man... |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
106. Cool car - a bud of mine |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:10 PM Response to Reply #106 |
134. Heh. I must know you. n/t |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
72. was? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
74. They never had to improve |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
75. An '80s catatastrophe |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
79. Aw, c'mon, they had fine Corinthian leather! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #79 |
88. I wish Chrysler would make a pimped out version of the Challenger and sell it as a new Cordoba |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:32 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. What a boat that was. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. You can see it wobble when he opens the door |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. The best part is even at that size it's still a two-door. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
118. You don't seem to be understanding the "personal luxury" concept. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
82. First generation Honda Civic |
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Moondog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #82 |
117. Torque-steer. Had a tricked out '08 Mini Cooper S that did the same thing. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
90. They were made to last 3 or 4 years and then to be replaced... |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
93. My 72 Plymouth Duster was actually pretty badass. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. What I like about the OP is... |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. It was terrible |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. The Duster wasn't that bad |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
100. I can tell you this, it wasn't the fault of the auto workers. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
102. I had a 1977 Cobra ll, 302ci-V8, loved it |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
105. And let's not forget most of the interior trim was made by |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
108. Back then, we could afford to buy a new car every 5 years |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
129. "planned obsolescence" |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
125. That was when the BEAN COUNTERS became CEO's. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. Oh yeah. Because Robert McNamara wasn't a bean counter at Ford in the 50s. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
132. They hadn't integrated computers effectively in to the production process yet. |
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cameozalaznick (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
135. It was called planned obsolescence |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
136. Several reasons. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
139. it had nothing to do with the unions. |
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