Thank You Seth Myers...

[WillyT]

Seth Myers To President Obama: “I’ll tell you who could beat you: 2008 Barack Obama. You would have loved him.”

I know I loved him...

:shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

1. LOL!

Funndy dat! Candidate Obama ran into that awful reality of folks really believing that all they needed to do to change the entire world in no time flat was to bother to vote one time, and then sit back and start throwing rocks.

Candidate Obama 2008 would be disappointed that he ended up not getting the help
he kept asking for while campaigning. He didn't know we were going to confuse his call
as a one time deal.

Guess Obama 2008, didn't realize how trifflin' we'd be....but he kind of should have....
cause how did he think this country got as fucked up as it has been for the past
20 years or so....if not longer?

[msongs]

2. blaming everyone else for Obama's personal choices? ok nt

[slipslidingaway]

5. That works ...

:sarcasm:

[Logical]

7. IT WAS A JOKE! So now jokes about Obama are off limits also? n-t

[slipslidingaway]

8. As usual ... there was some truth in that joke. n/t

[Logical]

9. I guess some people think Obama is off limits, even at a roast. n-t

[slipslidingaway]

11. When there is some truth, as there was in this case, then it hurts...

and defense mechanisms appears.

[blondeatlast]

13. The President almost had a wistful look after the joke.

Humor works best when it hits you where you are--that one did.

[slipslidingaway]

14. Need to watch/listen again, did a little of both tonight, but for many people ...

that line was something we had already been thinking. We can only hope he'll reflect on that line :)

[Paradoxical]

10. Pathetic.

[ThomCat]

12. How many times are you going to repeat this?

Obama's failures are Obama's.

His inability to negotiate has nothing to do with a lack of support. He has broad national support for health care reform, universal health care, and either significantly regulating insurance or eliminating them from the delivery of healthcare all-together. He refused to call upon that support. He refused to allow progressive supporters to have any role in the process.

He refused to allow progressive legislators to even be a part of the negotiations, or even see the bills. Lobbyists and insurance industry and healthcare industry reps were allowed at the table and into back room meetings but our own progressive reps weren't allowed in. Our own progressive community reps weren't allowed to participate in any way. Doctors and nurses were locked out of the policy discussions. That wasn't a failure of support. That was a failure of leadership. He refused to listen to the people who could have supported him.

He insisted on listening to the corporate reps instead, and then insisted that the we all had to support what they wanted, and what they agreed upon without our input.

The same thing happened on environmental issues, and on economic issues, and on free trade, etc., etc.

Over and over again Obama refuses to listen to people on the left who would happily support him if he acted on the things he promised to support as a candidate. Then he moves to the right, because he's listening only to lobbyists and corporate reps and republicans and the conservative wing of the party. He attacks the left. And we are told that we are the ones that aren't supporting him? No, he isn't supporting us! He's the one who abandoned the left.

[pacalo]

3. After that, Seth commented directly to Obama that maybe he was too idealistic back then

& Obama nodded (in wistful fashion) yes.

I suspect the pressures put on him from the corporate world are very strong.

[CakeGrrl]

4. Reality bites. n/t

[kentuck]

6. It may have been a rude awakening.?

when he found out that someone else was running the show?

[LoZoccolo]

15. Seth Myers: automatic unrecommend n/t

[WillyT]

16. If Nothing Else, You Are Consistent LZ...

:D