Reply #49: U.S.=6% of World population/ U.S. consumes 60% of World's beef-Meta That

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interesting fact.
U.S.A. home of the lard asses.
Never enough goodies to gather.

agree, with what you say about wastefulness, self righteousness--not good things-

I like the Apocalyse Now ideology-Marlon Brando-"you must make a friend of horror"..great movie--

but..the "we've always done it that way" idea (that "sacrifice" thing you mention)...interesting-
Sure everything eats everything here, that's our history.
The idea of "sacrifice" is cool, sure it is, unless the sacrifice is yourself or your friend.
Animals are my friends. Foreigners are my friends. i am my friend. Lettuce is not my friend (we can't relate).
Un-necessary killing is different than "un-avoidable" killing.(from cows to Iraqis)
Life on earth is destructive, sure, but for civilized people to think they have no control over human destiny is just a ticket for reckless lawlessness.
Philosophies vary - there is no "right" path because each is flawed in some way.
(hard to find a system without a history with some dirt or hypocrisy)

The idea we should just deal with certain disgusting behaviors because nothing can be done because it's all part of the human condition--disagree--

The problem I have is with the "we've always done it this way" as a justification for anything-(saying the sacrifice element is just part of the human condition-is saying "we've always done it this way" or "that's just how it is".)
same argument used to preserve slavery in the 1850's.
same argument used to prevent women from voting.
same argument used to preserve segregation.
same argument used for apartheid.
same argument used throughout history by those reluctant to separte from what they're familiar with.
we all know this -no big deal-just thought I'd mention it.
My point is we don't have to shy away from not supporting what we feel is wrong because we feel it might not help much anyway.

Sure we live in hell, but I don't accept the idea that we are always killing something anyway so we really have no obligation to examine our methods.


edited for spelling