Reply #22: Everything You Say...

[datavg]

...is true, but I've lived in the South and there are a hell of a lot of those people down there. They're putting up new highways, schools and churches so fast in Austin that the concrete companies can't keep up with the demand. Austin will be completely surrounded by brand new, gorgeous six and eight lane toll roads five years from now. Even Dallas is in the middle of a ten year initiative to completely revamp its infrastructure.

Something is going on down there, and as liberals we ignore them at our peril. These people get what they want.

A lot of this is about NAFTA...but Clinton signed it and there's nothing we can do about it now.

These people are wealthy, powerful and (most importantly) angry. They're always pissed off at something, which I think has to do with a large percentage of them still fighting the Civil War.

Do you realize that, as bad as the Republicans have been lately, we could STILL wind up with one of them in the White House next time around? Do you know why? Texas has 34 Electoral votes, Florida has 27 and when you add in the rest of the Old Confederacy, the total adds up to way more than California and west coast.

Democrats have to find a way to win down there. Elizabeth Edwards says the DNC is making the same mistakes for 2008 that it made in 2000 and 2004 because it doesn't know how to handle the whole God thing. Social movements in the South don't come from academia. They despise academia...especially in Texas. The action is in the evangelical churches...and that's gonna be a real problem for the Left. You can't sell abortion rights, gay rights and feminism to someone with a Bible in their hand. I don't care how much money these groups contribute. I don't care how wealthy they are.

What we're doing doesn't work. I'm not sure it will ever work. This isn't 1965 anymore.

California should just secede and get it over with. A lot of people I know here agree with me.