Reply #136: amandabeech

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I know;). And if you had missed it too. Opel have maybe a unfair repotation as a car with a lot of problems.. Have a good friend who was reparing his Opel more than he was driving the thing...

Dailmer-Crysler have been partner ca 10 year If I dont get it verry wrong, and for some reason Crysler var out of the "house" with Daimler.. I dont know why but it maybee some with that Crysler not exactly havent been the best car manufator laterly?

I know about that many japanese car who are sold in US are not exactly at the smal size but rather the larger type.. But it is a symbol that the Japan made cares are sold better in US than US cars...

Wel I disagree completely with that "saftey issuse". The american car manucaftors have not doing its job when it come to petrole comsumsion in many year beforse the "saftey issuse" was coming into play.. Why can European and japanse car made the saftey thing that less hevy in exempely Norway, than they can build it in the US?.. New Eropean and japanse car have a lot of saftey inside it, even my old Toyota Corolla have some verry genius "saftey" in the car, and that was long before the Airbag was coming into play....
The US made cars use a lot mor petrol than they japanese and european counterpart. Thats the reason becouse american car are doing it so bad lately. When you have prizes that the american "joe" can get nightmares of, then you dont drive the car with the higest consumtion of petrol.. If the american peopole really was up to a shock, they should live by the prizes many other parts of the world are living by this times..
My familiy have had a lot of american made cares before, it was Dogdes, A Ford, and some others car I just dont rembember this time around.. But they verry seldom was under 1 liter for the mile, Its maybe not that unasly in the US, but when japanese car cand drive the same length for .5 liter a mile (the metric type mile) Then you have to deside who car you vant to drive.. And in our case, it have been japanese since 1992... Before then, we do have some german made Ford Taunus, ok in the summer, horrible in the winter becouse the was like sleaders on slipery roads.. And we was living into the woods so the car usaly get into the side of the roads some times a year.. And have to be pulled up by the naibours tractor:P. But when Subaru was coming home, it was not more tractor-pulling from the side of the car... And of course Subaru is japanse:
And, in many years the american made car was not exactly "safe". In the middle of 1980s they was starting to step into the case, and building car who was more safe then before.. But it was LONG after japanese and eurpean car manufactors had understand that saftey is the BIG issue for many car byers.. And that allmoust "killed" the american made car in Europe in the first place..

Off course it is the sheap labour in many other car.. And the car manufactors are going for the "sheapes" labour everywhere they can find it.. To sement the "bottom line" of course.. This type of thinking is STUPID, why waste skilled workforce for the sake of some more dollar?.. But the leaders are not thinking that way, but allways trying to get some dollar more out, even as it mean that the manufactored goods is not that up to scale that it was before.. And the wictim of that?. The american worker, who have to either get less paid, or get fired.. And if I dont recall totaly wrong, may tousands of american car worker have been fired the last 10 year, both to get strugling firms to surive, but also becouse they want to "safe" som bucks in the prosess...

Consultants is just that. But exutives have to use they brain before they are relocate whole factories, becouse some "consultants" was telling them that if you send the factory to China you can get 10 fould again... Tousands, maybee ten of tousands of hard working american have lost everything they have, becouse of that.. And they have to fight for them self.. The most of them get into other jobs, but some never had/have a job again... spesially the older ones.. And the american car manufactos even canibalise the pentions found, becouse they have that bad economy. What shall the worker who had worked more than 40 year in one place do, when the pention found is dry, and you dont have saved enough to get tru in your elderdom..

As I have said in the first post. When US manufactors are building car who both US want, and the rest of the world want, they wil come back and beat Toyota big time. But so long they are building for the most part big gassgusling SUVs you wil never get ordinary pepole back the wheel... When you can get a litle japanse or european car with 150 horsepower who use maybe from .5 to .8 , and then get a big SUV with the same horsepower, but with the prise of 1.5L for 10km they you deside for the smal europan or japanse car.. If you then dont have the pocket to drive the big SUV then.. THen you pay for the price anyhow..

I do belive that american car manufactors _can_ build a car for lets see, european mared who are both safe, and dont use over one liter for the mile.. THEY manage to put a man on the moon, why cant they use the know-how to build engines who dont use a lot of petrol?: It is lazynes for the manucators side. Have them just been sleeping in for long, and now have to get to grips that werry many pepole dont want to use half they salary on petrol anymore?.. That is the big issue outside US where you can get 4 liter for 3 dollar.....

Many warned that free trade can come back and hunt us. They was usaly told to shut up, and do as the "economist" was telling you to do.. When the reality of "free trade" are coming to hunt us, sudlendly it is not that nice after all funny enough.. But try to sell that to the "consultans" or the "economist" and they wil just look at you and dont understand what you are saiing...
Social and political stability is important, and have been that so long socity have been existing. And I guess that over 40 million poor american are doing "some" for the "social stability" part... How many more american wil end up desolute before the worst exesses of "free trade" have ben stoped?.. Many mor with THIS administration I am afraid...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language