Reply #19: Thanks for the information; now for my opinion...

[The Croquist]

As I stated on an earlier thread on this, this is almost certainly NOT fraud. This is poll worker incompetence. Everything you said above supports my opinion.

What kind of an idiot is going to deliberately undercount votes when it can be so easily checked and corrected?

To cheat in hundreds of precincts (78 out of 6000 isn't going to make a difference) you need hundreds of conspirators. If even one talks your chances of winning is destroyed and you might end up in jail. I've managed to avoid jail but I've heard it can not only leave a bad taste in your mouth but be a pain in the ass.

Hillary Clinton was expected to win NY easily. Cheating in NY makes about as much sense as Nixon cheating against McGovern in 1972 and we all know how that worked out.

Mayor Bloomberg's statement is short, to the point and extremely reckless. "If you want to call it significant undercounting, I guess that's a euphemism for fraud,"

He made a claim with NO evidence. Personally I think he is trying to stir up trouble between our two candidates to his own advantage.

The real problem are the poll workers. How tough is it to accurately record numbers? Are the different columns in the machine not identified and if so is the recording sheet not marked with identical markings?

Why not send two separate teams to record the votes, have them do it separately, then compare them? My precinct in Georgia usually has a dozen workers in it when I vote. There are only about 20 machines. Would it be too tough to have 4 of them record votes instead of 2? How much longer would it really take?

Lets take this a step further. Lets say that these mistakes swung the initial reporting of an election say in Florida in 2000. The initial count went Gore and the recount 1 or 2 weeks later said Bush. We would be screaming fraud but it's just incompetence.

This is an indictment over NON electronic vote tabulation. I don't like a lack of paper trails either but here we have an example of a non-electronic system that is unacceptable.

Recording numbers accurately isn't tough to do.