Reply #8: Yeah. I'm a hard lefty but have been defending the troops on this - to a degree -

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1) the talk between them has been scrutinized when really that is how you live with yourself doing what you are doing. (right?)
2) I havent been in war but can empathize easily that the camera (and I'm a photographer) looked like a weapon and like you said - everything does.
3) The main f up IMHO was the van. (it all was an eff-up obviously) but they had 0 grounds to lite the van up and did so for the hell of it really.

Finally, ultimately this was and is the commands fault. Rules of engagement being what they are, no one fired upon the van till they gave the OK.

Just my opinion. The rules of engagement need to change for this type of city warfare, so many civilians have been killed, many in situations much more horrific and obvious than this video. Hopefully this vid will help us pull out of the middle east though. One can hope something outrages everyone enough.

Cheers
Sandy