Reply #3: Will be interesting to read the posts from those ebullient guys on that other thread.

[Psephos]

This one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4384910

$34 billion gone forever...and that's according to official government auditors. What else could have been done with that money instead of give blood transfusions to zombies? If it were up to me, we'd have used it to create a vibrant green-energy manufacturing industry that could employ more people than a car industry dying of its own excesses.

Sooner or later the shaky pension fund will fail and dump yet another $30 billion in unfunded liabilities on the PBGC (i.e., the US taxpayer). The media has been silent about this...I'm sure it will come as an "unforeseen shock."