Reply #37: well, I agree with one thing,

[blindpig]

that being that the 60's movement scared the elite more than we ever realized. I suspect that the culture has been manipulated in various ways since then to make sure it doesn't happen again.

While I have great respect for Russian engineering the stain of Lysenko is hard to ignore. You don't see real scientist buying into the corporate fables concerning climate change, just a handful of corporate whores. Likewise even though they would have us accept ID none but the stupid are going for it. My point being that the independent scientific community works. If abiotic oil were a real possibility I think we'd hear of more work being done. It's too important to ignore. Of course the consensus has been wrong before, some of the older books on my shelf are half useless.

More to the point if Peak Oil is just a scam to excuse oppression and imperialism it's a funny way of going about it because conservation and alternatives are the obvious response, only bloody minded jingoist would think otherwise. The war on Terra gets those results much more directly.

I think that resistance to the concept of Peak Oil is to some degree denial(not meaning you here), the idea that this way of life that we
take for granted must end, that it was stupid and wrong in the first place, is hard to accept.

peace