Reply #17: I'm not a creationist by any stretch of the imagination...

[Devils Advocate NZ]

But what you just posted is totally misleading!

Evolution has now been independently verified:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3790531.stm

Scientists have observed a new species of fly being born for the first time. This is incontrovertible evidence that evolution is a fact.

Here is the FIRST paragraph of the article:

Scientists at the University of Arizona may have witnessed the birth of a new species for the first time.

"May" does not mean "incontrovertible evidence" no matter how much you want it to.

However, the University of Arizona researchers believe the insects are in the early stages of diverging into separate species.

So even those who support the findings suggest that it is only the early stages and that they haven't actually separated into two species.

Finally:

Laura Reed maintains that such limited capacity for interbreeding indicates that the two groups are on the verge of becoming completely separate species.

So in other words, the scientists that are making this claim ARE NOT making the claim you suggest. They are NOT saying they have observed one species become two, they are saying they have found a species that they believe is on the VERGE of becoming two.

That is FAR from "incontrovertible evidence"!

What if they are "on the verge' but never actually do?

Making claims like yours is just as bad as saying that evolution is a lie because the Bible says so.