Reply #117: No, I'm not saying the father has the right to say "yes you will".

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

I'm saying the father has the right to say, "well, maybe it's a good idea". Saying men have NO say in the matter is complete bullshit.

Perhaps you're just not listening when I say that it's still ultimately the woman's choice, but to say that men can't be involved with the debate is flat-out wrong.

On edit: I'm saying a man SHOULD be able to get custody if he wants. I'm about INCREASING overall responsibility, not decreasing it. But with increased responsibility, there's also shared responsibility, and that's the problem I have with saying men have no voice at all in abortion.