Reply #12: What table are they on? Is there legislation pending?

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We've got them talking exit, but we've got to find the best way to hold their feet to the fire. What Hayden said that resonated with me was that we could lose control of the rhetoric. That's why I advocate a direct admission of failure to effect an immediate withdrawal.

I don't think we get there by hemming over linking that exit to achieving some future, nebulous set of goals. That, in my view, is a license for Bush to justify continuing or prolonging the occupation by simply stating that we haven't yet achieved some goal or benchmark which resembles Sen. Kerry's or those of others on our side who have put foward plans.