Reply #14: History has a logic...

[Dirk39]

I can hardly remember to ever have seen pictures that show human beings, completely deprived of their dignity as the ones I've seen of Guantanamo Bay.
Even if you would suppose that some of these people are terrorists, whatever they might have done - although we already know that many of them were arrested there for month, who are innocent:
It is by no means necessary to treat human beings like this. Nothing they could have done, could justifiy the way they are treated there.

And Ausschwitz has established a new imperative, a negative imperative.
To do something AFTER Ausschwitz that only slighty resembles the way human beings were treated by the Nazis, just completely discredites the people, who are doing it.
One example is antisemitism. There were antisemites before the nazis and many of them. The USA was full of antisemites and they were popular in the USA.
We look at them with different eyes after the Shoa, we cannot believe that people like Hegel did write what they have written, among many others. If we judge them, we have to consider, although it might be a hard thing to do sometimes, that they did this before Hitler and the many many many Germans, who followed him.

But every antisemitism AFTER Ausschwitz is justifying everything that was ever done to the jews.
And a place like Guantanamo Bay, where people are treated in a way, never seen before, without any access to justice, without any possibility to defend themselves - by the leaders of a nation that liberated Germany from the Nazis, by the leaders of a nation, who teached the world what civilization means, when they organised the Nuremberg trials?
This is barbarism.

It's not about, if Bush is comparable or worse or better than Hitler. It's about how a government, how an army of a democratic nation can do, what they are doing AFTER the Nazis.

Hello from Germany,
Dirk