Reply #10: As a non-Christian...

[Chan790]

I think it's pretty spot-on...although I'd definately move JP II to asshole (he can be both but he definately doesn't belong in the same category as Mother Theresa or Bill Moyers without a caveat)...he's pretty much the reason I'm not a catholic anymore.

I'm not sure how it fits into the beatitudes but being a quisling to homophobes, chauvinists and those who'd obfuscate investigations into sex abuse and pederasty tarnishs one in the eyes of any "God" who may exist. (It's certainly not doing unto the least among us like we'd do unto him, in any case) He did great things early-on but by the time I became a teen (I'm 25 now) his mind and body were too far gone for him to remain in his position. Sorry if this is flamish, but JP II is no better than Jerry Falwell, James Dobson or Pat Robertson in my book.