Reply #23: Agreed -- this is what "little white lies" are for

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Its worth trying a ruse like this to get the info (I did so once -- a friend of mine was being battered by her husband, but didn't want anyone to know -- I used a ruse to get her Mom to give me the current telephone number of her ex-Marine brother, who I called and asked to look into the situation, and act as a deterent to the bully brutalizing her -- it worked perfectly and put an end to her suffering).

But, even if you (BurtWorm) get the info, if the daughter is estranged, she may not welcome your involvement -- a chance I personally would be willing to take, as I did with the case of my battered friend. Also, she might not "get it" right away -- the seriousness of it may take a while to sink in.

If you are unable to get the info, and you feel that contacting a social service agency is in order, perhaps they can contact her.

It sounds like you (BurtW) are doing a great deal, just by keeping an eye on him. You're a good guy.