Reply #49: "Well, there's your answer: I give up the wealthy and their greed."

[The2ndWheel]

That's the answer to a question I didn't ask. I was asking what you would give up, something that you want, that you like, that makes your life worth something to you. You can't just give up something that someone else has and call it a day...that's how we ended up with the wealthy.

"Why do we have to pay for the food we eat and why is its nutrient quality so low? The reason is that the farmer has to pay for his fuel, equipment, pay wages to laborers he needs, pay taxes on his land, pay a huge mortgage and interest to the bank. So he is forced to sell his crops for much more than it actually cost to produce so that he can pay all those extra costs --and then, after all is said and done, pay for food, clothing, schooling, medical expenses, etc., for HIS family so that has to be tacked on to the price as well. The farmer sells the crops to a wholesaler who collects crops from dozens, hundreds maybe, of farmers in his area and then puts them on the open market to be resold to wholesalers in other parts of the nation and the world, thus distributing the produce from one area out to the world. He is going to add to the price of everything he sells because he has the same kind of costs that the farmer does: labor, equipment, fuel for the equipment, temperature control for the crops that need refrigeration, costs for his warehouse (taxes, rent or mortgage, etc.) and the list goes on and on. And as the crop is handed off to another person, each one wants to make some profit off of the transaction. So for every apple that you buy at the grocery store the actual cost of producing and distributing that apple will be somewhere between 10% and 25% of what you pay. That is the first reality: Capitalists make no money if they do not overcharge you for the goods they sell. The "smartest guys in the room" learned that the more they overcharge, the richer they become, and the more money they can collect and hoard, greed feeds upon greed, though, so their thirst is never satiated. They always feel that they need more and more money."

So basically you're against agriculture, government, and corporations? Or, you like the benefits of each of the three, but want to somehow not pay the costs associated with doing any of them?

"So, sure I'm willing to give something up: I give up the rich. Let them find some other place to live their fantasy lives of luxury and self-indulgence. I want a country where we all have everything we could ever need, where opportunity is truly there for each and every person, where the top 2% does NOT own more assets than the bottom 90% --as is the case right now in America."

You don't really want to give up the rich. You want everyone to be rich. You want robots as the new wage slaves(just without the costs of a wage), and all the people to be wealthy and greedy. As greedy as is humanly possible too. Where we all have everything we could ever need. Everyone. Everything. Ever.

You do contain it only within the borders of America though. Is this a world wide idea, or does just 5% of the human population get in on the fun?

Castigate the rich for fantasy lives of luxury and self-indulgence in one sentence, then in the very next sentence what you really want are fantasy lives of luxury and self-indulgence for everybody. If we've got this many issues with just 2% of the population living this way(they do have everything they would ever need), how is there going to be a habitat with everyone living the way of the 2%?