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russ1943 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 01:13 AM
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19. Interesting but, of limited value.
The Firearm-related deaths per 100,000 people, on the chart indicates a beginning rate in 1981 of slightly less than 15,000 approximately, level till 1993 then declining till 1999 and stable since at just over 10,000.
It appears someone has charted murder and labeled it something else
Firearm related death isn’t just murder, it isn’t even the largest component of firearm related death, that would be suicide. If someone wants to chart murder then call it murder.
The Firearm related deaths per 100,000 people is widely available. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/guncrimetab.htm and will closely parallel the redlined Number of Firearm-Related Death as they include the same components. Firearms related death and firearms related death per 100,000 people are the same category, one is the number the other is the rate.

As the National Academies (National Academy of Sciences) pointed out in their 2005 paper “Firearms and Violence: A Critical Review” The existing data on gun ownership, so necessary in the committee’s view to answering policy questions about firearms and violence, are limited primarily to a few questions in the General Social Survey……………….The inadequacy of data on gun ownership and use is among the most critical barriers to better understanding of gun violence. Such data will not by themselves solve all methodological problems. However, its almost complete absence from the literature makes it extremely difficult to understand the complex personality, social, and circumstantial factors that intervene between a firearm and its use.
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=3

The fact that the number of firearms in US.is far too imprecise/unknown to establish relationships and ratios, seriously undermines any “objective correlation” referenced in the OP. That makes three of the six lines of dubious value.

The General Social Survey referred to by the Academy of Sciences notes that; Gun ownership has been declining over the last 35 years.2006 GSS (General Social Survey). Household gun ownership; about a third or 33%. Personal gun ownership; less than a quarter or about 21%
http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/07/pdf/070410.guns.norc.pdf See Page 11
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