Reply #21: That's not true, CB...

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The reason this guy is being called a right-winger is because he's sure as hell talking like one. Having been in this forum a fair while, I'm sure yr aware that left-wingers who say 'any good words about Israel whatsoever' do NOT get called right-wingers. I'll eat my words if I ever see Amos Oz or Peretz being called that...

And that's why what that guy said made perfect sense to me. His fanatical adoration of what he sees as Israeli perfection and his equally intense dislike of anything Muslim showed me that without even having to read another article of his or finding out he's in bed with Daniel Pipes that he's got pretty extremist and intolerant views, and it's people who hold those views and those who condone those views who are a barrier to peace...

Which leads to you saying 'maybe you guys think closed societies and dictatorships are a good idea, that women should be oppressed, that people should have to show their papers every ten minutes and declare their religion upon entry to a country, because it sure doesn't sound as though democracy is something that's really appreciated on Democratic Underground.'

Where is the big leap from pointing out this guy is a weirdo conservakook who believes god promised the land to Israelis ('In fact, Israelis have proved beyond any doubt why God promised them this land – only they could keep it green.') to supporting dictatorships and oppression of women? I'm not seeing the connection there...

There are very eloquent and intelligent folk who can and do say good things about Israel, and manage to do so without demonising Muslims and Arabs at the same time, nor claiming that any criticism of Israel they mention is anti-Semitic....

Violet...