Reply #41: also.....

[pelsar]

a typical elitislt leftest viewpoint from someone who already has a stable established culture......

rather than trying to set up a manifold of ethnic mono-cultures., well thats "very big of you" to tell so many other peoples that their own self-determination is too late, they missed the boat...and they have to blend in now with their neighbors culture.

so does that mean your against the palestenians for their self determination or against the jews for theirs?

the jews should forever wander the globe being subject to various forms of anti semitism that creeps up from time to time in various countries....or the palestenains should have learned to mesh in with their fellow arabs in the neighboring countries.....

which one gets to supress their culture and which one gets self determination?..its mutally exclusive....you get to pick, no "peace on earth and kumbaya stuff...)....this is called living in the real world, tough choices with only bad options.....

wordie made his clear about the kurds: his attitude? well kurdish independence wil hurt his culture (america) and its interests...and his culture has the power to stop them...so "tough shit kurds" you dont get your self determination, lifes not fair (oops, that was my editorial edition)..how about, life is about power politics, and established cultures not being liberal in the application of their own interests?

(which is precisly what you wrote about-using more flowerly words)