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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 08:54 PM
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11. no, that is actually (sort of, in a raped and mutilated way) a correct statement
Edited on Mon May-09-11 09:14 PM by Alamuti Lotus
"al-Qai'dah" was borne specifically from the partnership of Sheikh Ussamah's money and influence and Zawahiri's ikwanis (Egyptian followers of Qutb who believed that the mainstream Brotherhood had become corrupted by the accursed Sadat's crumbs of power), curiously only after the Palestinian martyrs Sheikh Abdallah Azzam and Mustafa Shalabi were murdered (possibly on orders from Zawahiri). Azzam(SWT) was Sheikh Ussamah's primary mentor on his way, and had a part in founding the Hamas organization out of the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza, though he had nothing to do with the more modern day to day (primarily Dr Rantisi, Sheikh Yassin and Khalid Meshaal, etc). As an aside, al-Qai'dah is not and was never a "wahhabist" movement (though the term has popularity with self-styled "terrorism experts" and lazy government/press bureaucrats who don't know any better), due to their unyiedling opposition to the Saudi monarchy (actual "Wahhabist" priests are strictly aligned to the Saud family by fraudulent tradition), and would more properly be described as a (somewhat distant) offshoot of the MB and Qutbist line of thinking (though the branch from Zawahiri-Zarqawi owe more to the wretched writings of Ibn Taymiyyah than anybody from the last few centuries, 'Takfiri' is the preferred term of abuse or praise). Azzam and Shalabi would have been an earthquake to the mideast and by proxy the world had they survived, instead there is now what there is now.. sigh.
The MB was born in Egypt out of Qutb's movement, but has now many branches around the world in many nations; all of them wretched. disclaimer: your humble narrators (me and my split personalities) owes more influence on the subject to Hizbu'Tahrir & Hizbu'llah and is severely biased against the salafists/Ikwanis/Takfiris/Wahhabis accordingly; that, and Pakistani salafists have actually tried to kill me, so I have what the Mexicans would (probably not) call "Mucho Biasistos" on the subject.

However, there is such a gulf between Hamas' nationalist platform and al-Qai'dah's outlook that it is only of the most ridiculous chicanery and ignorant opportunism to mention them in the same sentence like this; there is enough animosity between salafists and Hamas that I would be actually surprised if Meshaal is not really dancing a jig at the news of Sheikh Ussamah's passing, appearances for the media notwithstanding. oberliner's new apparent obsession on this matter is really just crass opportunism, writ large.
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