Reply #157: You asked her what she was doing here if she wasn't a Democrat

[Classical_Liberal]

then specified the big D. When you start getting mad that Israel isn't persuing a two state solution, maybe I will believe you support it. As it is you get mad at the people trying to accomplish this goal, you support the wall not being on the green line, which makes two states absolutely impossible. There is not enough land leftover to make two state,and you support continued harrassments and bulldozingings on the west bank, which actually creates more terrorist than it catches. I suspect you like the walled bantustan plan, complete with the lousy settlements and you will call it two states. We just aren't on the same page.

Kerry also attacks Hugo Chavez exactly like Bush and would prefer a damned conservative government there that dismantles the social safetynets, and fair wages. Kerry also supports pre-emption. He only will talk nicer to the Europeans. I don't give a shit about the Europeans anymore than the conservatives do, but that war was bullshit. There was no link to Al Qaeda, and we knew this before the war started. Furthermore the Bush administration wouldn't have taken oil outright, because that would expose them as fucking greed heads. Though the pro-likudnik christian zionsits in the Bush administration also promoted the war because of their delusion that Israel is disliked because of dictators rathr than settlements. This myth can be easily debunked when you consider Iran is a democratic country, and not one bit pro-israel.

Fair trade means not signing trade treaties, that undermine labor and environmental standards, or social safety nets, in any country.

Caring for the poor means the same thing.

Barring taking the party back, democrats like me need to create a battered womens shelter party so the neoliberals in the party can't threaten us with homelessness, if we won't submit to a beating.