Reply #11: also agree

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"The Jews" are not in control. I also agree the basic overview of history in this article is somewhat glossed over and therefore very boring to get through the article.

As to the preemptive business in the same breathe. While Israel can make a defensible case of "self protection", that depends on who you read. Egypt's threat might have been exaggerated (even according to Sharett entries going back to 1955), not that the two were not hostile toward each other. they were, but after the czech's arms deal went through and according to benny morris' accounts going as far back as 1955 israel right wing leaders were hellbent on justifying a pre-emptive strike on Egypt and all legs of Israeli intelligence were at work with various compaigns of improper information aimed at justifying what would become a justifiable retaliation, if not a justified preventive strike. (account also similar regarding the 6 day war in bramfords book on the NSA).

However, I agree in that the threat, just from a geographic perspective, is more so defensible than Saddam's threat to US soil or interest (when one does not consider all the mis and disinformation compaigning that stirred the pot and led up to the strike itself in the 60's I mean).

The main point of that sentence being IMHO that Israel is the pioneer of pre-emptive strategy, and that which might justify pre-emptive intervention even the various strategies of "dirty pool", which is why perhaps the author placed the two in the same breath.

It was at this point that I took a break in my reading of the article as it was at this point that it struck me just how glossed over the history here is. The point of the article being the Jews are not in control, not in America.

In the ME, the Israeli's are US allies as well as consultants in war strategy (even in regard to the US Iraqi War effort). If successful, Israel is promoted to a kind of management level in the gulf region. A kind of overall Landlord, if in fact part othe strateg is aimed at Israel taking over russian and french interests. This in and of itself is somewhat cocky considering the bad blood there.

The main point of the article is that NO "the Jews" are not in control. one page in that point was made adequately.