Reply #54: Ah, when Dean does it he's being "diplomatic"

[Crunchy Frog]

but when Clark does it, he's being "effusive in his praise". That's the big difference, who said it, not what was actually said. Anyone who takes the time to look at the one speech given by Clark where he "praised Bush effusively" will see that he was warming the audience up with diplomatic language so that he could go on to pretty severely criticize Bush's foriegn policy direction. Dean's effusive praise did not come with the criticism that Clark's did. Sorry.

If you can document his actually raising money for the Bush administration, I would like to see it. No, it's much easier to make an unsubstantiated claim and expect that no one will refute it. For the record, he made one speech as a paid speaker, for one small local fundraiser, then followed that with a speech for a Democratic fundraiser.

I would like to see a comparison on paper of how much money he's raised for Republicans vs how much he's raised for Democrats over the course of his lifetime.

Clark didn't get as many delegates as the others simply because he was a realist. When he realized that there was no way he could get the nomination he gracefully bowed out. Certain other candidates were in the same position but stuck around, embarrassing themselves and continuing to suck millions of dollars off of their supporters while continuing to lose primaries. I'm frankly just as glad that Clark chose his way, it was alot more dignified IMO, and was kinder to his supporters. It showed an admirable lack of personal ego involvement.

While he was in the race, he was actually doing quite well relative to the non-Kerry candidates, considering the fact that Kerry was basically mopping the floor with all of them. He at least won a primary that was not his home or birth state. How many of those did Dean or Edwards win?