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Reply #30: I agree. It's BUSH's war. Why don't they nail him with it--with one voice? [View All]

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30. I agree. It's BUSH's war. Why don't they nail him with it--with one voice?
If the Democrats spoke with one voice, this war would be over. But some of them are hog-tied to the military-corporate complex, with war profiteering as the driver of it all. And that IS the kind of Democrat whom the Bushite electronic voting companies and their brethren, the war profiteering corporate news monopolies, ARE going to "select" for us, as a candidate, and if they decide to do it--for their own purposes (for instance, to get a military Draft)--that's who will win. The plan is to expand the war into Iran and Syria, and whoever can get that done gets "selected."

The only conceivable way for us to defeat having NO choice in '08 (War Democrat vs. War Republican) is to throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

There are many local election reform movements afoot to do just that, but, without strong support from the Dem Party, it's going to be a long slog to retrieve our right to vote.

There is Feingold's bill in Congress HR 550, which will help a lot. Banning the "trade secret" programming code and other reforms will be mandated for '06. It has 170 or so sponsors, as I recall.

Then there is the hope that even a War Democrat has to pay lip service to progressive values like honest elections, and even if a War Democrat is foisted upon us, we might be able to get speedy national reform under such an administration (while avoiding pitfalls, like federalization of elections and mandated electronic voting, centralized electronic voter database, and voter ID, nationwide--all prone to easy fascist takeover; our state diversity is a strength). We would then have transparent elections for the 2nd decade of the 21st century.

There is one other path for '06 and '08, and that is, turnouts of such overwhelmingly numbers that it overcomes the fraud. Some think Kerry could have won if he'd been antiwar and had thus garnered a higher margin of victory than his probable 4% to 5% margin (if all suppressed, purged, 'disappeared,' switched, and provisionalled Dem votes had been counted). The electronic voting fraudsters have to be careful not to be too obvious.*

I think the poll numbers are up around SEVENTY PERCENT these days, of Americans who want nothing more to do with these Mideast war plans. You'd think an antiwar candidate could be elected president in these circumstances, and, with a fair vote, and honest news organizations, he/she could be. And, who knows? Miracles sometimes do happen. But we cannot realistically expect anything better than a War Democrat, I'm afraid. We must strategize on the basis of truth and reality to restore our right to vote and our democracy.

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*Recently, in Ohio, four ELECTION REFORM initiatives went down to a 60/40 defeat, after pre-election polls predicted a 60/40 WIN for all four. Clearly, Diebold & co. are working on flipping over large percentages of votes with impunity--and not just tweaking relatively close votes that we can overcome with our large numbers. See Bob Koehler's article on the Ohio initiatives:
http://www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?custid=67&catid=1824


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