OBAMA HAS WON MORE BLUE STATES SO FAR

[redstate_democrat]

What's with this argument Hillary has that she is winning all of the states that "matter" for us in the GE? Obama has won more Blue states so far with 11 (Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, District of Columbia, Hawaii) to Hillary's 6 Blue states (California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Hampshire).

She might have won Ohio, but Ohio was a red state last time. Bush won that state by more than 108,000 votes last time. I would think that if the state is starting off as a Bush lover state, then Clinton would be the last person you would want to run there. It energizes the Republican base in that state. Also, if Obama is not on the ticket, it's a loser anyway due to Cleveland, and Cincinnati's, Columbus urban population not giving a rat's ass and staying home. Rasmussen has McCain winning Ohio against both Dems so far. This tells you a lot about Hillary's voters in the primary.

She also makes a big deal about winning Florida too, even though it was uncontested. Let's look at the facts. Bush won Florida by over 400,000 votes last time. Since this state is already starting off as Bush country, wouldn't the last thing you want to do is run Clinton down there to energize the Repug base? They have a Repug governor who has endorsed McCain. Not to mention Gore "lost" there. If Obama is not on the top of the ticket due to nefarious reasons, you run the chance of the urban voter not coming out either. It's a loser if Clinton is on there either way.

Now let's look at Pennsylvania. Kerry won this state by about 140,000 votes last time. Rasmussen has Obama beating McCain in Pennsylvania by 10% and Clinton LOSING by 2% in Penn to McCain. Energized Repug base if Clinton on ticket. Depressed urban vote in Philly and Pittsburgh if Obama not on ticket. Loser.

Now lets look at Missouri. This is a unique situation. Bush won by 200,000 votes there. Missouri could swing to Democrat if Obama is on the ticket. He won Missouri in the primary. Senator McCaskill has endorsed him. She won the state wide race just two years ago. She could get the vote out for him. If Clinton is on the ticket, energized Repug base, depressed urban vote. If Obama is on the ticket, there is a fighting chance with Senator McCaskill behind him. Governor Sebelius could be helpful in the same way for Obama in Kansas.

In New Mexico, Bush won by 6,000 votes. Rasmussen polls show Obama would TIE McCain here. Clinton would lose by 13%. This says a lot about her voters in the primary. Nadar got over 4,000 votes here. Obama would have a better chance of picking up those Nadarites than Clinton.

Bush won Iowa by 10,000 votes last time. Obama won Iowa in the primary. Rasmussen has Obama winning against McCain in Iowa by 3% and Clinton losing to McCain by 10%

Obama won Colorado in the primary. Rasmussen has Obama beating McCain by 10% and Clinton losing to McCain by 14%. This is a possible pick up.

Michigan would be in trouble with Clinton as the nominee despite her winning the "primary" uncontested and with Obama's name not even on the ballot. McCain would tie Clinton. Obama would beat McCain by 8% in Michigan. If Obama not the nominee due to nefarious reasons, Dems risk depressed urban turnout or stay at home vote.

Let's look at Nevada. Obama technically won Nevada because of delegates. Polls show Clinton LOSING against McCain by 9% and Obama winning by 12% against McCain. This is a possible pick up in the West for Dems come November.

Let's look at Oregon. Obama will probably win this in the primary. Clinton loses against McCain by 3% and Obama wins against McCain by 9%.

Even in Wisconsin, which he won, Obama wins by 1% against McCain, Clinton loses against McCain by 12%

Obama won Minnesota. Guess what? Clinton LOSES against McCain by 5%, and Obama wins by 14%

Basically, what I am saying is that the states Clinton won will be won anyway. Kerry beat Bush by over 2 million votes in New York. Kerry beat Bush by over 1,200,000 votes in California. Massachusetts? By over 700,000 votes. Rhode Island? 100,000 votes. New Jersey? Over 200,000 votes. New Hampshire, with its 4 electoral votes, by 10,000.

Iowa and New Mexico switched to Red last time. They can switch back. Kerry lost Virginia by a little over 200,000 votes against Bush. Obama won Virginia. If Webb gets on with Obama, he could swing Virginia the Dems way.

Basically, the best hope for the Dems is Obama. He has a way of getting the Independents and defected Republicans. He can bring certain states into play and save other close states from going red. The radical Republican base won't be energized in a contest between McCain and Obama. Hillary is the one person who can get them out of the house. Since Hillary has said that both she and McCain have experience to be in White House and have supported the Iraq war, what real choice will there be for the anti-war voter?

Obama will bring the younger voters out. He will bring the urban vote out en masse. He will bring the Independents out for him. He will get defected Republicans/Libertarians. He will have the excitement and money behind him. And he will have done all of this fair and square by following the DNC rules.

Now, tell me again, why the hell are we still debating this. Why are we not waging holy war against John McCain?